Gains from my first cycle

**Rugby13** · 03-05-2002, 09:28 AM

This is what my first cycle consisted of:

Dianabol : 25mg/day – Weeks 1 – 3

Omnadren : 1cc/week – Weeks 1 – 4

Sustanon : 1cc/week – Weeks 5 - 8

I went from weighing 174 in week 1 to weighing 198 at the end of week 8.
My squat went from 4 reps on 405lbs to 5 reps on 500lbs
My bench went from 310 to 360!!!

I waited 4 weeks and now I've just started my second cycle which is pretty much the same as the first one and I've gained 11lbs in my first week already!!!!
I work out 6 days a week and hit each major muscle group really hard only once a week and then on Saturday I do a really light total body workout.

P.S. I'm 21 years old and I don't think it's wise for anyone to do anything at an earlier age at all. I might have started a little earlier so please be careful!!!!

Please let me know what you think!!!

**A.K. BOY** · 03-05-2002, 03:34 PM

that "f"in sweet man....cant wait to see those kinda gains with me!

**Rugby13** · 03-05-2002, 04:36 PM

Thanks man. Let me know how it turns out for you ok!!!!

**Jack87** · 03-05-2002, 09:41 PM

Question bro... Why since from omnadren to sustanon after 4 weeks? Aren't they the exact same combo of tests now??? What's the difference??

**Rugby13** · 03-05-2002, 10:54 PM

The only reason I did that was because my guy could only get hold of the Sus so I just continued my cycle with the Sus!!!

**Billmister** · 03-15-2002, 03:37 AM

Sweet Results RUGBY13. Dude did you take any thing after the sus? Like clomid or nolva? And were your workouts still intense after the workout?

Keep up the work man, i hope i get results like that from my upcomming cycle.

**Dbolaholic** · 04-05-2002, 09:41 PM

holy shit them are some nice fucking gains for just 1 cc per wk. damn i hope my cycle turns out that good and i am doing 2cc sus a week and 2 cc EQ and 50 mg Dbol . Ur a lucky bastard with those gains. Keep it up,.

**thespiritofaman** · 04-05-2002, 11:57 PM

Good, great, shit bro....But let us know what your diet was like and training. I am on a similar cycle with 40mg D-Bol, 600mg test enthate and 400mg Decas. With the clomid and Novaldex ready for use. I am in my 7th week and gained about 23 lbs as of yet. But my strength is moderate gains. So how you training????

Peace.

**Ajax** · 04-06-2002, 12:19 AM

Rugby,

It sounds like you got good results on your cycle, but let me play Devil's advocate here for a minute, OK?

First off, if you are only taking 4 weeks off, I would say that you are not really doing two cycles--you just did one long cycle with no injections for 4 weeks.

Sustanon is a mix of short and long-acting testosterone esters. Some of the juice is in your system for up to 3 weeks after your last injection. That means that you were 'juice-free' for only one week.

So that's why I dub what you are doing as "one long cycle."

OK, so why not do one long low-dosage cycle like you did?

Well, the problem is that you will be 'on juice' virutally constantly for 23 weeks--almost half a year--non-stop. (8 weeks injecting + 3 weeks 'coming down' while you absorb the last of the sustanon, + 1 'dead week' + 8 weeks injecting + 3 weeks 'coming down' = 23 weeks) That means that your testicles will not have produced any natural testosterone for almost 6 months! It will be hard to get them back to producing natural test after that long of a vacation--and without your natural testosterone you are at great risk of losing your gains.

It's not really hard to do juice and get big; what's hard is to get big and stay big.

Look at thespiritofaman's post above; he is doing (I am guessing) an 8-10 week cycle with more gear-=-but he is getting twive the gains--and if he uses Clomid post-cycle, he won't lose much of the mass he gained.

In my opinion, it's better to do a couple SOLID cycles a year with time off to get natural testosterone production back online and consolidate your gains, then to stay on a low level of juice for a long period of time.

Just playin' Devil's Advocate....

G-S · 04-06-2002, 02:56 PM

As always Ajax, you're right on. Good post.

**thespiritofaman** · 04-07-2002, 06:59 PM

Ajex you are right on the money. My cycle is going strong for 12 weeks and I will use the clomid and NOX my doc gave me to keep the most i have, I will stay off for three months, I Don't intend to lose my Girl cause I am a spagetti.

Chill