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    making of a monster

    First off, here are my stats as of now...

    23, a little under 200, @ 7% bf, 5'11".

    This is going to be my first cycle,

    1-10: Test e: 500mg week
    1-6: D-bol: 30mg ED

    Going to be trying to bulk up a bit, maybe get 20 pounds or so... I feel that ive pretty much hit my genetical limit at 200lbs. Should be getting started in a few days.

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    Those two stacked have had good results with alot of bros on here. Alot run test longer and dbol shorter tho. Whats your PCT?

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    pct is going to be HCG and nolva... Im thinking of bumping the test up to 12 weeks, but most people seem to say the major gains from test back off after 10 weeks.

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    12 weeks is better than 10, but 10 will do if thats what your shooting for

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    No clomid?

    Keep in mind you'll need more than 2 bottles of Test E anyway cuz you can't get exactly 10 shots out of one... some juice gets left in the needle after injection and gets wasted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    No clomid?

    Keep in mind you'll need more than 2 bottles of Test E anyway cuz you can't get exactly 10 shots out of one... some juice gets left in the needle after injection and gets wasted.
    Im using 1ml amps...

    And no, i prefer nolva over clomid, works just as well for me, if not better, and i dont get all the nasty sides.

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    Not to flame but how would you know how you respond to clomid or nolvadex if this is your first cycle? IF you are going by what other people say about a drug, its never that easy. Even if you had a twin most likely he would react differently to a drug compared to you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Daven
    First off, here are my stats as of now...

    23, a little under 200, @ 7% bf, 5'11".

    This is going to be my first cycle,1-10: Test e: 500mg week
    1-6: D-bol: 30mg ED

    Going to be trying to bulk up a bit, maybe get 20 pounds or so... I feel that ive pretty much hit my genetical limit at 200lbs. Should be getting started in a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sta11ion
    Not to flame but how would you know how you respond to clomid or nolvadex if this is your first cycle? IF you are going by what other people say about a drug, its never that easy. Even if you had a twin most likely he would react differently to a drug compared to you.
    I have done m1t, pretty recently, and a while back, a few cycles of 1test and 4-ad that pretty much shut me down compleatly. At first I uesed clomid post cycle, but I got really bad acme and became very moody, next I used nolva, got me back up to speed just as fast and without any sides.

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    M1T, will not shut down your system, As if you were taking enathanate. I could understand the neg's of taking clomid, but that is you r only choice when pct. The bad acne is most likely the bodys hormones being low after the steriod has gone threw your system. But then again not ever two people are the same and if you are saying nolva does work for you. Then stay with it, I have been doing some research on the matter of taking nolv for PCT. I have not come to a conclusion yet, it is difficult to find info on this matter. Most of the info is on peoples own personal experiences.

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    they do two different things. clomid will increase your bodys own test productions and nolva is an estrogen inhibitor or blocker.

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    You will not need HCG for this cycle. Go with clomid/Adex/Ndex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
    You will not need HCG for this cycle. Go with clomid/Adex/Ndex.
    Ok cool, guess ill save the HCG then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Money Boss Hustla
    You will not need HCG for this cycle. Go with clomid/Adex/Ndex.
    bro, mind explaining why? thanks

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    Took my first shot today, I was thinking it might hurt, but I coudnt even feel it. Put my d-bol dosage down to 25mg also.

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    hmm, I would go 1-4 Dbol , 1-12 test 500mg/week

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    Quote Originally Posted by slizzut
    hmm, I would go 1-4 Dbol, 1-12 test 500mg/week

    Yep. Good solid cycle here. Even throw in some winny 50mg/day for 4 weeks at the end...good luck bro! Keep us posted.

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    k, im going to go with the test for 12, but the d-bol is going to be 5 now (misscalculated how much I had)

    5th day in, and up 3.5 lbs. No streanth gains really, so its mostly water.

    2nd shot today, went smoothly.

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    ::everyones different:: but, you wont notice any real strength gains till week 3. As for puttin on the pounds I put most on during weeks 6-8. you can EASILY slap on 20 lbs.

    just my .02

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    sorry for the lack of updates...

    The d-bol hasnt done much for me (as far as streanth goes anyway), dont know if its the dosage or what, but im going into week 3 of test, and its kicking in pretty well . Yesterday my close grip and normal bench went up 10 pounds each, i know I could have done 15 easy. And went up 5 pounds in dumbell bench, and they still felt like nothing... up about 12 pounds so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sta11ion
    M1T, will not shut down your system, As if you were taking enathanate.

    yes it will.

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    Coudnt help myself, went to the gym today. Put up 10 more on close grip and 5 more on curls... Im loving this.

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    Squats today, went up 10 pounds, and 20 sence Ive started on leg curls and exst. havnt gained any more weight as of now...

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    i justed started a cycle of winny by itself ...im thinking of taking it like thiks. What you guys think... 1 st week 50mg/ed , 2nd week 100 mg /ed 3rd week and 4th week take 50mg-75mg everyday!>
    hopws this sound for someone whos 200lbs , 22 yrs old ...been lifting for 4 years now sense highschool football ...bench about 275 MAX ...if pretty good shape all around and got about 10 pounds or so i could affors to lose right by my belly button .

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    coulda started a new thread rather than bumping a 2 year old one

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigpopparich
    i justed started a cycle of winny by itself ...im thinking of taking it like thiks. What you guys think... 1 st week 50mg/ed , 2nd week 100 mg /ed 3rd week and 4th week take 50mg-75mg everyday!>
    hopws this sound for someone whos 200lbs , 22 yrs old ...been lifting for 4 years now sense highschool football ...bench about 275 MAX ...if pretty good shape all around and got about 10 pounds or so i could affors to lose right by my belly button .
    Start you own thread dude !!!

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    that is the most blatant Hijacking of an old ass thread ever!!

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