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    New Years cycle, wk by wk.

    Bout to start on Jan. 5th. As follows:

    #1 – 20wk
    1-5 DROL 100mg/day
    1-12 TestE 750mg/wk
    1-8 Deca 600mg/wk
    5-20 Primo 1000mg/wk
    10-20 TrenA 75-100mg/day
    14-20 Masteron 400mg/wk
    14-20 Test Prop 100mg/day
    GH 10IU(workout days only, EOD), 5IU/day 5on2off w/PCT.
    Slin on and off w/T3 at 25mcg/day
    Aromasin 25mg Start-PCT
    No IGF-1 LR3 until further research is acquired.

    Start my Log upon receiving BW within the next week. See how everything goes.



    Oh yea, stats as of Dec. 28th. *(goal)
    Age: 24
    Weight: 188.......*(>205)
    BF: Approx. 7-8%.........*(<10%)
    Chest: 45........*(>46)
    Arms: 17........*(>18)
    Waist: 32.......*(<34)
    Legs: 24.5.......*(>26)
    Calves: 15.......*(>16)
    Wish me luck.
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    I wouldnt bother with the IGF, from the research I have done it wont do shit and is a waste of money

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    I just ran it at 80mcg/day and wasn't impressed. GH is money better spent, even at my age.

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    shit man i dont kno how u experienced folks keep up with everything. HGH 12IUs thats quite a bit...sure ull get a good effect from EOD? How longs the HGH goin for anyway?

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    Don't know, but I'm going off of what Mike and Pinn suggested. I feel it is the best approach. GH will possibly be run for 9 months, but I may not come off of it if at all possible.

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    Sweet I'll be keeping an eye on this... I hope to look as good as you after bulking for a few more years IBd....

    Which reminds me... are you going to be taking pics?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superballer
    Sweet I'll be keeping an eye on this... I hope to look as good as you after bulking for a few more years IBd....

    Which reminds me... are you going to be taking pics?

    Yes agreed,take pics.If you dont wana post em here fair enough but get some for your own reference.....i do and its amazing when you look back.

    Good luck IBdmfkr

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superballer
    Sweet I'll be keeping an eye on this... I hope to look as good as you after bulking for a few more years IBd....

    Which reminds me... are you going to be taking pics?
    Possibly, I will add them at the end for a short while. Not one for having my pics float around the net.

    Thx Xlarg, I'm getting anxious to start, but gotta wait on BW

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    Good luck on this brother!

    One question though.Primo is known to be effective in a restricted type diet environment.The cycle you are about to embark on is that of a quasi lean bulk/cutting cycle.So why the Primo in the front end of the cycle when you'll be on a restricted diet near cycles end?

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    Yes, I have been debating that. I am almost leaning towards switching the Tren and Primo... How do you feel about this? Personally I think it would be a better choice. Tren wk1-12/Primo 10-20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Yes, I have been debating that. I am almost leaning towards switching the Tren and Primo... How do you feel about this? Personally I think it would be a better choice. Tren wk1-12/Primo 10-20.
    I'd leave the Tren in the same position,but I'd run the primo form wk 6/8-20.That just seems more logical.

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    Anything else wks 1-6/8? Or could I stick Deca in for the first 8-10wks at 4-600mg/wk, that would work well for the mass portion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Anything else wks 1-6/8? Or could I stick Deca in for the first 8-10wks at 4-600mg/wk, that would work well for the mass portion.
    Higher dose Deca (600mgs) would be nice for the first 8 weeks


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    Good deal, I'll keep you posted when I start. Prob around the 5th, stay tuned.

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    Awww man I'm so excited!!! You know for you to start your cycle of course . This is going to be one sick stack!!!

    I'm curious to see how the GH goes. Hopefully even with all these differnet compunds you will still be able to tell if there a diff between ED and EOD. There are so many theories on the most effective way of running it so this run will hopefully after this you'll have some light to shed on the situation.

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    Jay, you are VERY excited! hahahah

    No doubt, this is my first REAL cycle, the others have just been warming me up to this

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Jay, you are VERY excited! hahahah


    When I clicked to post it kept saying waiting. I got so pissed that I kept hitting Esc and clicking on post again. Whoops guess I am a little over excited huh....................Its all for a good cause though

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    that looks a good cycle you are embarkin on mate!!
    i am startin my cycle begginin of jan also,have you already started the growth?you know that it is best to have started gh 2-3 months prior to a cucle to get the max benifits from the synergy between gh and aas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    you know that it is best to have started gh 2-3 months prior to a cucle to get the max benifits from the synergy between gh and aas.

    He's a smart MoFo. I'm sure if he didnt the only reason would be financialy related. I'm starting my GH exactly 2 months before my Stack. Ahhhhhhhhhhh this is going to be one great summer. As long as my ex doesnt pop up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova16
    He's a smart MoFo. I'm sure if he didnt the only reason would be financialy related. I'm starting my GH exactly 2 months before my Stack. Ahhhhhhhhhhh this is going to be one great summer. As long as my ex doesnt pop up
    yeah i know he aint stupid mate i just thought id mention it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    yeah i know he aint stupid mate i just thought id mention it.


    You're always thinking ahead Booz!!!!

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    Cycle updated above, (Thanks Pinn, nice input to an already close to perfect cycle )

    Booz, unfortunently I came across where to find the GH very recently and added that to the cycle after finding out more about IGF-1 LR3 (if you want to call it that, or you can call it rat piss?) SO I switched to GH instead. So unfortunenly I will start it at the same time as my cycle, but I don't think it will make that big of a difference seeing I am running a 5month cycle

    I'm not stupid!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Cycle updated above, (Thanks Pinn, nice input to an already close to perfect cycle )

    Booz, unfortunently I came across where to find the GH very recently and added that to the cycle after finding out more about IGF-1 LR3 (if you want to call it that, or you can call it rat piss?) SO I switched to GH instead. So unfortunenly I will start it at the same time as my cycle, but I don't think it will make that big of a difference seeing I am running a 5month cycle

    I'm not stupid!
    i know that mate quite the opposite really,i know you are quite knowledgable,i was just pointin it out,good luck with the cycle,i am runnin gh for the 1st time also!

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    Ok..now that we've established you aren't stupid.

    What style of training are you going to be doing for the cycle?

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    Yeaaaaaaaaa Good luck Bro!! I will be following this one day by day.

    BTW-F*ck You haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Ok..now that we've established you aren't stupid.

    What style of training are you going to be doing for the cycle?

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    BOOZ, this is my 2nd run with GH, last time I did 5on2off at 4IU's. Great for holding gains Post Cycle at that dosage, but more is necessary IMO to make mass gains during.

    I'm a genious!!!! Well I was going to train on a 3day routine EOD, First 10wks. (Doggcrap has some interesting training ideas)
    Day 1: Chest, shoulders, Tri's
    Day 2: OFF
    Day 3: Legs
    Day 4: OFF
    Day 5: Back, bi's, traps/abs.
    Day 6: OFF
    Day 7: REPEAT.

    BREAK: Here I'll take 1 1/2weeks off from training.

    Next 10wks I will switch to my old routine(something like this).
    2on1off
    1: Chest, calves
    2: Back, abs
    3: OFF
    4: Legs
    5: Arms/calves
    6: OFF
    7: Shoulders/abs
    8: OFF


    NEXT

    Got my eye on you Frankie!
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    in your opinion it is a good idea to up the intake of growth durin the use of aas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr

    I'm a genious!!!!


    Well I was going to train on a 3day routine EOD, First 10wks. (Doggcrap has some interesting training ideas)
    Day 1: Chest, shoulders, Tri's
    Day 2: OFF
    Day 3: Legs
    Day 4: OFF
    Day 5: Back, bi's, traps/abs.
    Day 6: OFF
    Day 7: REPEAT.
    Highly debatable!First,one must learn to spell GENIUS.

    You'll find success in DC's training protocol,but it's a MUST to do the extreme stretching.That is the "Make or Break" element to his training protocol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    BOOZ, this is my 2nd run with GH, last time I did 5on2off at 4IU's. Great for holding gains Post Cycle at that dosage, but more is necessary IMO to make mass gains during.

    I'm a genious!!!! Well I was going to train on a 3day routine EOD, First 10wks. (Doggcrap has some interesting training ideas)
    Day 1: Chest, shoulders, Tri's
    Day 2: OFF
    Day 3: Legs
    Day 4: OFF
    Day 5: Back, bi's, traps/abs.
    Day 6: OFF
    Day 7: REPEAT.

    BREAK: Here I'll take 1 1/2weeks off from training.

    Next 10wks I will switch to my old routine(something like this).
    2on1off
    1: Chest, calves
    2: Back, abs
    3: OFF
    4: Legs
    5: Arms/calves
    6: OFF
    7: Shoulders/abs
    8: OFF


    NEXT

    Got my eye on you Frankie!

    lololol Good luck bro. Happy Growing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Cycle updated above, (Thanks Pinn, nice input to an already close to perfect cycle )
    Dammit...what about my imput?


























    goodluck lil bro

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    lol, No deff. appreciate the help in the PM's Nark+BigK. Good stuff. I'm a Jeneus! Yep Pinn, the stretching is important from what I've read. You have actually tried it if I remember correctly, how'd you like it? Or anyone have any other training routines you'd like to suggest? Fire away.

    Booz, to answer your question. Yes IMO it is a good idea to up the GH intake during the use of AAS and Slin for what I am trying to accomplish and my young age. I'll take it with PCT/slin purely for maintainance, basicly like a bridge to my next cycle.
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    Two days to go, everything on schedule, just awaiting BW. 06 is gonna be a good year

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    Looks good..................... except for that gram of primo.

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    U don't like my primo!?!?! WTF, lol... Well I've never ran it before so I figured I'd give it a try, seems like it would go well with what I have stacked with it. I am leaning towards 800mg/wk for my first go.

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    So when're you gonna start already?

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    be patient! It is already hard enough damnit.. Here is a Strength update, I'll update this every 2-4wks as I progress... (strength is down from last cycle drastically but up from before my last cycle, so it is looking good).
    Weight as of 1-3-06=188lbs, around 8% BF.
    1-3-06

    Chest (work set)
    Flat bench: 275 x 6
    Incline dumbells: 90 x 8

    Calves
    Seated: 3plates x 12
    Donkey: 5plates x 10

    Bi's
    Standing barbell: 110 x 10
    Standing dumbbell: 55 x 8

    Tri's
    Seated overhead: 120 x 10
    Skull crushers: 115 x 8
    Diet consists of 4500+ calories/day, approx. 350g Protein, 500carbs, 100g Fat. I will slowly ramp it up to 5000+ for the first 8weeks of cycle and then drop down to 4000-4200 for the extent of the cycle. Hoping to hit 205 by week 10 and stay at my desired weight dropping BF during the second course of the cycle, keep you posted.
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    Leg workout Yesterday, feeling quite out of energy. Workout was pathetic and people wouldn't leave me alone. Lifts were down as well. Needless to say I can not hardly walk today or get out of my car without cringing because of how sore I am.

    Today I worked Back, again energy levels down but already up a couple lbs. Will start aromasin in a week or two, currently taking 20mg/day of nolva. Seems to be holding water off from Drol.

    Take tomorrow off, hopefully Mon will be a good chest workout.

    UPDATED

    Worked chest today, This morning I threw in some prop @100mg/day to the mix for the next couple weeks because I'm not feeling the drol. Chest/calves workout went pretty well, lifts were reasonable and had good energy. Back to drinking a ABB Carbo Force before and during workout, seems to help my energy levels quite a bit.

    Bench-Flat: 225x15/275x6/315x4 w/spot (a bit weaker than anticipated but a good base for the start of the cycle). Last one I ended at 315x8, I should beat that in 4-6wks.

    Dumbbell Incline: 80x10 100x8 100x8

    Calves-Donkey: 4plates x 15, 5plates x 10, 6 plates x 8
    Seated: 2 1/4: 10, 3plates x 8, ditto.

    I'll hit arms tomorrow, After next update I will post once every couple weeks or so, being this is a 5month cycle.

    Arms went well, looked something like this. (keep in mind perfect form, no cheating)
    Straightbar curls: 80x15 100x10 110x8
    Skull Crushers: 85x15 110x12 125x8
    Standing Dumbbell curls: 50x12 55x10 60x8
    Seated Overhead press: 90x15 110x10 125x8
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    Got BW back today and I'm pretty pumped. After my cycle before last my test serum was at around 160ng/dL which is extremely low after a fullblown PCT. This time I continued to take nolva all the way through to this cycle and I am sitting at around 600. My liver values are within range (last time they were not). Only thing that concerns me is my white blood cell count was a tad bit low, not sure why. Other than that A-ok glad I chose to start before I got my results, what a relief. lol

    Worked Arms today, feeling strong, lifts were good. Take tomorrow off and do back on Thurs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by big k.l.g
    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    keep the updates coming mate!
    Quote Originally Posted by FranKieC
    Keep it up bro!

    Thanks guys!

    I'm trying to keep the thread concise so your replies'll be merged (Thanks Nark)... as will my own.

    Thanks for following

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    keep it up bro, things are going just fine...

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