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    kizer amazes himself yet again

    Not even two full weeks into my light cycle (cutting) and 3 weeks into my new diet. Well got bf measured the day my cycle started, 13.1 at 223. 10 days later I am 223 still at 11.3%, still got 6 weeks to go.

    Cycle:
    Prop 50mg/d
    No ester eq 75mg/d
    winny 100mg/d
    t3 25mcg 5x/week
    .25mg/d arimidex

    Supps:
    Twinlab Maxilife multi 4x/d
    2000mg/calcium
    1000mg/magnesium
    2000mg/Vit C (3000 on training days)
    1200IU/vit E (1800 on training days)
    300mcg/selenium (400 on T.D.'s)
    Milk thistle 2000mg/d

    Diet: umm, bland is all I can say. Carbs only come from beans (black usually) brown rice and oats.....except postworkout I have malto/dextrose. Protein is only coming from grilled chicken breasts and protein shakes and occasionally eggs.

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    damn bro,
    2 points on the bf already? and no weight loss? this is lookin good bro............


    peace bb79

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    people are saying 100mgs/daily of winstrol is ok for advanced users.

    but, thats quite a bit of 17AA toxins??

    either way thats amazing,

    where the hell did you get esterless eq????

    just did a source have it or is home brew changed?

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    no ester eq is my left over chinese food. 17AA is over rated IMO, still not enough that precautions should not be taken but I don't think they are as bad as people make them out to be.

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    Awesome kizer. That is amazing. You must look awesome with those stats. I bet you get to 7-8% easy. Keep going.

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    Originally posted by kizer_soce
    no ester eq is my left over chinese food. 17AA is over rated IMO, still not enough that precautions should not be taken but I don't think they are as bad as people make them out to be.

    I agree about the liver toxicity, but even I would be worried to run 100mgs of winny like that, hehe/.


    good luck

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    14 Days in well 15 actually, 224 @10.4%......looking for 6 or less by the end and at a rate of 1.45 points dropped per week, shouldn't be too hard...btw my only cheat meal so far was a cup of yogurt b/c I couldn't wait for my rice to finish cooking and if I drank another oat filled protein shake it would've wound up wasted in the toilet.

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    what are using to messure to accuratly?

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    I have the same person do skin caliper tests weekly, I take an avg of a two or three measurements.....I know this is not the most accurate but as long as my skin folds are going down so is my fat %.

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    Nice kizer. LOL I asked you if you were running anything...and shit, I freakin responded to your thread.

    You better have taken some before and afters.

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    Good deal Kiser,
    Keep up the good work. It sounds like you have everything down pat. Good luck with your future goals.
    IC

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    well this week sucked, lol......still the same on the diet, no change but no change in body comp.....still 224 at 10.4%......I am upping the t3 to 25mcg daily now instead of 5 days each week, gonna increase the training frequency and possibly toss in more caridio, haha, hell I was only doing it 2-3x per week anyway.

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    Hell yeah bro! Post some before and after pics!

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    update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    well test it tomorrow, had to lay off some of the gear and get some real arimidex b/c I think the chinese shit I had was sugar pills......should be about the same still, but it is back on this week.

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    Sorry, been a while on the update.....new one as of today

    218 @ 9.5%

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    good show bro.

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