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    y100's first tbol cycle

    Heading to the gym now ... starting an 8 week tbol cycle today! Not much to put here right now .... but I'll post stats, before pics, diet and my lifts up here by tuesday ... just wanted to get the log going today!

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    34 years old, 195lbs, around 14 bf (I think), hopefully can get some feedback on that when I post pics tomorrow.
    This is my first cycle. I didn't wanna put on water weight so I decided on Tbol.
    Cycle looks like this:
    1-8 Tbol 60mg ed (split into 2 - 30mg doses)
    1-12 Myogenx 3 caps ed
    1-12 Thermolife Liver Longer 2 caps ed
    9-12 Nolva 50mg ed

    Supplements are multi, Amp, NO product and BCAAS.

    Gym schedule
    Mon- Chest and Tris followed by 30 minutes cardio
    Tues- Back and Bis followed by 30 minutes cardio
    Wed- Off
    Thurs- Shoulders and Traps followed by 30 minutes cardio
    Fri- Legs followed by 30 minutes cardio
    Sat- Off
    Sun- Off
    ***Cardio will be adjusted from week to week depending on fat loss

    Diet looks like this
    Gym- 7am-830am

    PWO
    Whey Isolate and Dex
    39pro 45carb 0fat 330cals

    Meal 2
    10 egg whites
    48pro 8carb 0fat 240 cals
    1/2 cup oats
    5pro 27carb 3fat 150 cals

    Meal 3
    2 cans tuna
    65pro 0carbs 3fat 300cals
    1/4cup basmati rice
    3pro 38carb 0fat 180cals
    1 tbsp flax
    0pro 0carb 11fat 110cals

    Meal 4
    8oz. chicken
    53pro 0carb 3fat 250cals
    1/4 cup basmati rice
    3pro 38carb 0fat 180cals
    1 tbsp flax
    0pro 0carb 11fat 110cals
    1 cup of spinach

    Meal 5
    2 cans tuna
    45pro 0carb 3fat 300cals
    1tbsp flax oil
    0pro 0carb 11fat 110cals
    1 cup of spinach

    Meal 6
    Micellar Casein
    26pro 0carb 0fat 110cals
    1 cup FF cottage cheese
    24pro 16carb 0fat 160cals

    Totals
    341pro 172carb 45fat 2530cals.

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    Hi your instrested in your post as i posted something very simular myself except im still on the deciding part of doing the cycle... keep me informed of how it goes.. oh bwt where did u get your liver stuff from?

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    are you cutting? cals are very low?

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    Monday Feb 26
    Chest and Tris

    Incline Bench
    Warm up barx12
    90x12
    140x8
    160x8 drop 140x6, 120x6, 90x6

    Incline Flies
    25x10
    30x10
    35x10 drop 30x8, 25x8, 20x6

    Flat DB
    40x10
    50x8
    55x8
    60x5 drop 50x6, 40x8, 35x6

    Machine Press
    80x10
    90x10
    95x10

    Dips (bodyweight)
    9
    8
    6
    6

    SUPERSET
    Close grip bench press
    70x8
    75x6
    75x6

    DB Skullcrushers
    20x8
    20x6
    20x6

    Cardio
    30 minutes eliptical

    My left elbow was killing me when I got home.
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    Tues Feb 27
    Back and Bis

    SUPERSET
    Deadlifts
    warmup 60x12
    200x10
    220x10
    240x6

    Bent over BB rows
    Warmup Barx10
    60x10
    80x10
    90x8

    SUPERSET
    WGPD's to front (I don't know weight, my gym has numbers)
    #8x10
    #10x8
    #10x8
    *** trying to do slowly and concentrate on working back instead of bi's

    Seated Rows
    #10x10
    #12x8
    #12x8
    *** trying to do slowly and concentrate on back

    SUPERSET
    One armed machine preacher curls
    20x10
    25x9
    30x7 drop 25x6, 20x6, 15x6

    Incline Hammers
    25x10
    30x10
    35x8 drop 30x6, 25x6, 20x6

    Cardio
    20 minutes eliptical (feeling dizzy and light headed)

    Sweating like crazy throughout this workout and lightheaded a few times.
    Elbow hurting again on the drive home but felt like a really good workout for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by perfectbeast2001
    are you cutting? cals are very low?
    PB, pm sent ... thanks for ur help bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random_J
    Hi your instrested in your post as i posted something very simular myself except im still on the deciding part of doing the cycle... keep me informed of how it goes.. oh bwt where did u get your liver stuff from?
    Hey random, got my liver supp at bodybuilding.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by y100adics
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    It's Feb 28th, bro.

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    That can't be a good start

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    Thurs Mar 1
    Shoulders and Traps

    SUPERSET
    Seated Rear Delt raises
    Warmup 10x10
    15x9
    15x9
    15x8 Drop 10x8

    Side Laterals
    Warmup 10x10
    20x9
    20x9
    20x8 Drop 15x8, 10x8

    SUPERSET
    Seated DB Press
    25x12
    30x10
    35x8
    40x6 Drop 30x6, 25x5

    Front Plate Raise
    25x10
    25x10
    25x9
    25x7

    Upright BB Row
    60x10
    90x10
    100x8

    BB Shrugs
    100x12
    150x10
    160x10
    170x8

    Behind Back Barbell Shrugs
    100x10
    100x10
    100x10
    100x10

    Cardio
    30 minutes Eliptical

    Good workout overall ... weird ... elbow didn't hurt at all today.

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    Legs

    Barbell Squats (Past parallel)
    Warmup 60x10
    150x10
    190x8
    190x6 drop 150x6, 100x10

    Leg Press
    380x12
    470x10
    560x8
    650x6

    Leg Curl
    90x10
    95x8
    95x6

    Smith Calf Raises
    290x15
    290x15
    290x15

    Cardio
    20 minutes eliptical ... cut it 10 minutes short ... legs were done

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    Are you noticing any changes after the 1st week?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random_J
    Are you noticing any changes after the 1st week?
    No changes in strength or anything ... feeling lower back pumps though and had a real bad headache on Friday, but I think the headache had to do with prolly not drinking enough water.

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    Mon Mar 5
    Chest and Tris

    Tried a new training method today as suggested to me by a respected member. High reps, lower weight. 4 sets od 20 reps per exercise. I did this today and it kicked my ass but I think I'm gonna stick with what I'm doing until my cycle is over and then incorporate this kind of training for 8 weeks or so. The reason being I felt like I was sacrificing form in the later sets cuz I was so spent. My Delts were hammered so I'm sure my form sucked even though it was pretty low weight.

    Incline DB Press
    45x20
    40x20
    40x14
    35x12 drop 30x4

    Flat DB press
    45x18
    40x18
    40x12
    35x12 drop 30x12

    Incline Hammer Strength Press
    100x20
    90x12
    90x12
    80x15

    Tri Dip
    10xBW
    10xBW
    8xBW
    8xBW

    CGBP
    100x18
    90x15
    70x12
    70x12

    6 sets of abs

    Cardio
    30 minutes eliptical

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    How come your doing so may reps? are you not training for mass?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random_J
    How come your doing so may reps? are you not training for mass?
    It was something I was trying for a session .... I'm back to my normal training.

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    Tues Mar 6
    Back and Bi's

    Wide Grip Pull Ups
    (Slightly assisted for super slow and 2 second pause at top)
    12
    12
    10
    10

    Deadlift
    Warmup 60x20
    100x12
    240x10
    280x5 drop 190x8, 170x10

    Bent over BB rows
    60x10
    100x10
    120x6 drop 100x4

    Wide Grip Pull Downs Behind Neck
    Super Slow and 2 second lat contraction at bottom
    #6x12
    #8x10
    #10x7 drop #9x8, #7x6 lost grip, couldn't hold the bar anymore

    Seated Rows
    Very Slow and 2 second contraction
    #8x10
    #10x10
    #10x8
    #10x6 started to lose grip again

    Close Grip Preacher
    50x10
    60x10
    70x7, drop 60x4

    Standing Hammer Curls
    30x10
    35x10
    35x8, drop 30x6

    DB One Wrist Curls
    25x10
    25x10
    25x10
    Weight rolled all the way down to bottom of fingers and last rep of each set held in up position for 30 seconds.

    Cardio
    30 minutes eliptical

    Felt really good today, biggest problem was keeping my grip later in the workout and also by the time I got to my bis they were already hammered. Used amplify 02 today for the first time. Good stuff.

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    have you posted any pics yet?

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    yeah, we want pics!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpm1
    yeah, we want pics!
    Ok, pics are up

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    Thurs Mar 8
    Shoulders and Traps

    DB Press Seated
    Warmup 35x12
    45x10
    50x8
    45x6 drop 40x4

    Laterals
    25x9
    25x8
    25x7 drop 20x6

    Plate raise
    45x8
    45x8
    35x6
    35x6 drop 25x4

    Upright Row
    60x10
    70x10
    80x6 drop 60x6

    BB Shrugs
    100x14
    190x10
    190x10 drop 100x10

    Cardio
    30 minutes eliptical

    Felt stronger today and my DB press and laterals were up, also recovering quicker in between sets. I'm only 11 days into cycle, so don't know if this is attributed to tbol or just a good day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by y100adics
    Thurs Mar 8
    Felt stronger today and my DB press and laterals were up, also recovering quicker in between sets. I'm only 11 days into cycle, so don't know if this is attributed to tbol or just a good day.
    Spoke to a few people who said around the 2 week mark is when they started to feel a change with tbol, or could be a placibo doesnt matter what it is tho a stronger better workout is always gooood!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random_J
    Spoke to a few people who said around the 2 week mark is when they started to feel a change with tbol, or could be a placibo doesnt matter what it is tho a stronger better workout is always gooood!
    Yeah man, definitely. I didn't expect to feel like that yesterday. I almost feel like I could have done more but didn't wanna overtrain. Legs tomorrow, hopefully recovery is quick cuz my legs usually hurt for like 2-3 days after working them! Stay tuned dude, I'll let you know. BTW, when do u start cycle and what does it look like? What is your diet like?

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    well im waiting for it to arrive so prob in the next few weeks, feel like a child waiting for christmas lol, but i was planning on doing a bit of a wierd cyle of tbol
    5 weeks wk1: 30 wk2: 40 wk3: 40 wk4: 50 wk5: 50
    then decided to scrap that and just 50mg ed for 5 weeks... with nolva for pct and then followed by a clen cycle to help lose any fat gain and stop muscle loss after the cycle...

    my diet isnt set day by day like most people i know that sounds bad but i always keep it within a boundry
    e.g. today was 1) 3eggs 1 whole 2 whites, slice of whole meal bread and 1 scoop whey half cup oats 30g pro 40g carbs
    workout
    2) Protein shake with bannana 30g protein
    30 mins later
    3)1 tin tuna - sandwich with wholemeal bread and salad 36g protein 26g carb
    4) protein shake 30g protein
    5) Chiken sandwich with wholemeal bread 27g protein 26g carb
    6) 2 chiken breasts bout 200g 50 - 60g protein pluss rice didnt really measure out how much but rougly bout 50g carbs

    so rougly bout 200g of protein give or take 140g carbs fat not too sure but low im guessing below 50 for sure! what do u think? i know its abit vague but i generally always stick to this sort of menu... gonna start making more of a set diet with more tuna and more chiken involved for when i start the cycle..

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    oh yea... how long you been training natty for? also do you feel any diff mentaly i know some steroids can make you feel pretty good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random_J
    well im waiting for it to arrive so prob in the next few weeks, feel like a child waiting for christmas lol, but i was planning on doing a bit of a wierd cyle of tbol
    5 weeks wk1: 30 wk2: 40 wk3: 40 wk4: 50 wk5: 50
    then decided to scrap that and just 50mg ed for 5 weeks... with nolva for pct and then followed by a clen cycle to help lose any fat gain and stop muscle loss after the cycle...

    my diet isnt set day by day like most people i know that sounds bad but i always keep it within a boundry
    e.g. today was 1) 3eggs 1 whole 2 whites, slice of whole meal bread and 1 scoop whey half cup oats 30g pro 40g carbs
    workout
    2) Protein shake with bannana 30g protein
    30 mins later
    3)1 tin tuna - sandwich with wholemeal bread and salad 36g protein 26g carb
    4) protein shake 30g protein
    5) Chiken sandwich with wholemeal bread 27g protein 26g carb
    6) 2 chiken breasts bout 200g 50 - 60g protein pluss rice didnt really measure out how much but rougly bout 50g carbs

    so rougly bout 200g of protein give or take 140g carbs fat not too sure but low im guessing below 50 for sure! what do u think? i know its abit vague but i generally always stick to this sort of menu... gonna start making more of a set diet with more tuna and more chiken involved for when i start the cycle..
    Good idea to go at least 50mg ed ... I'm at 60 and not feeling any sides except sometimes lower back pumps .. why 5 weeks for ur cycle? How old are you? What are your stats? I'm saying that isn't enough cals for ur cycle .... I'm up to about 3200 cals ed right now .... I wanna make sur I'm eating enough in order to make some gains and if I eat a few too many cals, after pct, I'll up cardio again and drop cals a bit ... but we'll see where I'm at 5 weeks from now .... Honestly bro, I would say the biggest thing for you to do right now while you're waiting for your gear is to get your diet straight NOW ... post it in the diet forum ... very helpful people there and I can help you out too .... also map out your workouts ... how you're gonna approach everyday ... what kind of exercises, how many sets, how many reps, supersets, statics ... everything. It will help out alot. As far as my training natty, about 7 years, but you wouldn't be able to tell cuz I'm not really big .... I never knew how to eat till I came here ... wasn't getting NEARLY ENOUGH food in me ... but now I know ... better now than never right? lol ... good luck man!

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    i am 22 and have been training now for about 5 years but 3 serisouly, im 5'6 180 and 15bf, decided on 5 weeks for a few reasons a) heard by quite a few people the effects drop after the 5th week so thought might as well keep it short, also by doing a shorter cycle it means if you do another cycle your tollerance wont be too high. i went to day and brought a shed load of chiken tuna oats rice and eggs gonna start putting a proper set diet together. thing is i dont want to gain too much fat as im an easy gainer in that way!

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    Where have you gone?? missing the updates!

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    I'm here bro ... just been really busy ... I'll post up my workouts week to week when I have time ... but a quick update for u ... my bench went up this week ... I didn't try to max out but I hit 225 for 2 sets of 12 and 245 for 1 set of 8 ... also my deads went up ... had to use the stupid smith machine to deadlift .... but did a warmup of 12x190 then went right to my max 280 ... did 10 of that and could have went heavier, but when I went to add more plated, the right side of the bar was bent sideways .... I don't know what happend, but I just put the weight back and went and did some rows ... lol ... Feeling stronger definitely and wasn't experiencing any sides till today .... lower back is killinggggggg .... but I think it's also from the deads.

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    good stuff.... things can only get better
    was wondering if when you have time you could please post your new diet! would be a great help to me.
    also i saw that you have already done clen ?? how did you find it? what where your results like?

    cheers

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    im guessing this log has now ended

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    Random ... if you have any ? ... hit me up on messenger bro .... I'm busy as shit man .... been trying to get on here but not on enough ....
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