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    add 20 Lbs and loose 4 % bfat

    im 6'4 , 239 @ 12.5% body fat
    i want to be 260 8% body fat

    i currently have a 10ml of sust and 500 tabs of winstrol
    i also have access to finiplix, deca , test, sust
    what would you recomend me taking

    i was planning on
    weekly injections of 2cc sust -8 weeks
    5 winstrol tabs daily- 10 weeks
    (2) 2 week on/off cycles of clenbutrol with xenadrine during the off weeks
    clomid after the 10 week winstrol cycle

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    What is the strengh of the winstrol tabs? Taking them for 10 weeks seems like an awfully long time. It would be real hard on your liver.

    Also, you'll have an awfully hard time loosing body fat and putting on muscle at the same time... especially 20lbs of muscle.

    It might be better to try and put on muscle for a while fist, then bring your body fat down. Or you can just do a cutting cycle like I did and take the Sust, winny and clen /xenadrine. Just make sure you keep your calories down and do some light cardio.

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    Your going to need more sus and run it for 10-12 weeks.Take the winny for four weeks at the end of your cycle weeks 9-12 then jump staight in with the clomid.

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    just sus or sus and deca for the first 6 weeks?

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    I think your being a little unrealistic to expect 20lbs of muscle AND a 4% drop in bf, however while it's not impossible to do that it's probably going to be easier if you do one or the other.
    Run sus500mgs/deca300mgs for 10 weeks and save the winny for a cutting cycle.

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    if u do the sus/deca

    1. increase deca to 400mg/ew to get max anabolic effect

    2. you will most likely gain 20+ lbs but will not drop bf considering that you will be eating lots of FOOD

    3. u might want to throw in d-bol there for the first 4 weeks to give u a kick start at a dosage of 30 - 40mg/ed 40mg/ed is very effective but tuff on the liver, thats wut i did but i took 1 gram of milk thistle, primrose oil, cod liver oil everyday. also drink cranberry juice for the kidneys as well.

    ok if u just do ur sus/deca cycle alone, dont expect to see results until around week 4 or at earliest week 3 and latest week 5. the d-bol was nice becuz it would have caused a huge rise in your testosterone levels , and an even bigger rise in your androgen levels, which means MASSIVE INCREAE IN STREGTH. good luck bro !

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