2nd Cycle Help Sust, Deca, Dbol

**TRE** · 09-04-2003, 06:37 PM

I am 21, 200 pounds, 6"1 With 11% body fat, What should I do with the stuff I have, I want an eight week cycle if possible.

20ml Sust 250 from Tornel
20ml Deca 300 from QV
750mg Dbol
100 nolvadex
60 proviron
30 clomids

My previous cycle I put on 14 pounds with deca and a little d-bol

**Calipso** · 09-04-2003, 06:49 PM

You should send it to me.

**RoNNy THe BuLL** · 09-04-2003, 07:06 PM

I did almost the same cycle. IMO eight weeks using what you have is almost pointless, you'll be in the peak of enjoying the gains and then cutting yourself short. Try running it for 10 weeks.

Weeks 1-5 - 30mg D-Bol Everyday
Weeks 1-10 - 500mg Sust (1cc on Mon/1cc on Thurs)
Weeks 1-10 - 600mg Deca (MAYBE, seems kinda high for Deca, but if not, run it at an educated guess of around 400mg a week since you have it in a 300mg/ml)

You'll grow bro, you'l grow BIG IF you eat enough.

**cheez4brains** · 09-05-2003, 10:45 AM

Ronny what kind of results did you get and what did you use for your PRC

**RoNNy THe BuLL** · 09-05-2003, 12:14 PM

I ran a 12 week cycle, which was my FIRST cycle about 9 months ago.

Weeks 1-5 - 30mg D-Bol
Weeks 1-10 - 500mg Sustanon
Weeks 1-10 - 400mg Deca
Weeks 7-12 - 100mg Fina (every third day)

And I ran the Clomid under the 300mg the first day, 200mg the second day, 100mg the third day and 50mg for the remainder pills I had every day after that until I ran out.

I started out at a bodyweight of 185lbs and at my HEAVIEST I was 230lbs. I ate around 4500 Calories a day and right now I'm sitting at around 210-215 9 months POST cycle and I made huge strength gains which I kept.

I didn't use creatine either. I just ate as much as I could. The only supplement I bothered using was:

Milk Thistle
ALA
Glutamine
GNC MRP (GNC's Meal Replacement)
Multivitamin

Keep in mind I ate until I couldn't eat anymore, and then I force fed myself. I did gain fat with the new weight, but I shed that after my cycle was over. What impressed me the most was the strength gains. I went from never doing any deadlifts to repping with 405lbs and doing a Clean & Jerk with 225 for 2 reps. My bench shot up from 250 to 315 for 1 and I was repping with 225 for 12. I also went from doing dumbell presses with 70lb dumbells to 100lb dumbells for reps. My flies jumped huge from 50lbs dumbells to 100lbs dumbells. Those numbers don't sound too big, but they impressed me.

Good luck with your cycle!

**TRE** · 09-05-2003, 03:05 PM

Thanks

**TheJuicer** · 09-05-2003, 03:17 PM

I would do...1-4 D-bol 30mg
1-10 Sust250 500mg
1-10 Deca 300mg
I think that 600mg is wayyyyyyy to high for the first cycle...If you train hard and eat big..you will gain an easy 20-25lbs. Even though I think that Test Cyp or Enth would be better...Sust Test levels in your body will be all over the place...trust me I know I did Sust250 twices...Water weight is real fun too!! I felt my fattest after two cycles of Sust..Damn and I always though that sust wasnt suppose to bloat ya..bull!!