Tell me where to improve

**mstearns76** · 07-14-2004, 10:43 PM

I finished my first cycle back in February. I got up to 205 and have come back down (trying to cut up) to 192. Here are some pics, please tell me where I need to improve.

6'1' @192 as of this morning.
Peace...

**mstearns76** · 07-14-2004, 10:44 PM

Here is a calf shot.

**bmf2** · 07-14-2004, 11:09 PM

What are your goals? (personal or to compete)... and what does your cycle, training and diet look like at this time?...

**FuKiN MoNSTeR** · 07-14-2004, 11:26 PM

maybe the shoulders could use a tad more size?

**anaBROLIC** · 07-15-2004, 12:50 AM

id say a lil work done on the chest would help...

**thickmass** · 07-15-2004, 04:38 AM

The reason you lost most/all of your gains is that since you stopped the cycle you dropped the intensity of your workouts. You basically went completely "off cycle" Such yo-yo training can lead to progress thats actually no better than doing it naturally

Thats where you can impove

**mstearns76** · 07-15-2004, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by FuKiN MoNSTeR

maybe the shoulders could use a tad more size?

You do mean my Delts right... My traps I think are good.

**mstearns76** · 07-15-2004, 06:31 AM

Originally Posted by thickmass

The reason you lost most/all of your gains is that since you stopped the cycle you dropped the intensity of your workouts. You basically went completely "off cycle" Such yo-yo training can lead to progress thats actually no better than doing it naturally

Thats where you can impove

I understand what you mean. However, I am still as intense as I was when One. Yes I have changed up my routine, but I also added in a lot of cardio. I also changed my diet up, and did not include as much protein As I had been taking in while on. I went back to eating like I normally would. It is much eaiser to eat correct when On, and then you go off cycle and you think do I really need to take in all the protein and calories.

**majorpecs** · 07-15-2004, 06:41 AM

Originally Posted by mstearns76

I ..... but I also added in a lot of cardio. I also changed my diet up, and did not include as much protein As I had been taking in while on. I went back to eating like I normally would. ....

This is your problem bro...You don't want to add in alot of cardio until your PCT is fully over with..and you DEF. don't want to lower your protein intake..your statement, BACK TO EATING LIKE I NORMALLY WOULD...tells me you shouldn't even take steroids . Your diet is WAY more important than anything else for your growth and retaining those gains, and to eat good while on and no other time is lazy!

**SwoleCat** · 07-15-2004, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by mstearns76

You do mean my Delts right... My traps I think are good.

Bro, deltoids = shoulders.

Yikes......

~SC~

**slizzut** · 07-15-2004, 08:33 AM

This isn't meant as an insult at all, but did you used to be overweight? You have a lot of loose skin on your stomach. Just curious, I'm not trying to insult you at all.

**mstearns76** · 07-15-2004, 08:44 AM

Originally Posted by slizzut

This isn't meant as an insult at all, but did you used to be overweight? You have a lot of loose skin on your stomach. Just curious, I'm not trying to insult you at all.

No insult taken, actually during college I was on a full Track and Field scholarship to run Hurdles, and would get very cut during the season. I graduated and got married, and blew up, put on about 30 lbs. In college our strength coach had us doing a lot of olympic lifts cleans, jerks, deads, squats and lots plyometics. After I got married, I stopped doing the olympic lifts and just got into a lifting rut for about 3 years. The past 3 years I have become more serious first adding weight naturally (two cycles) where I add another 25lbs that is where this skin got strached out, and then one cycle with Juice.

**slizzut** · 07-15-2004, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by mstearns76

No insult taken, actually during college I was on a full Track and Field scholarship to run Hurdles, and would get very cut during the season. I graduated and got married, and blew up, put on about 30 lbs. In college our strength coach had us doing a lot of olympic lifts cleans, jerks, deads, squats and lots plyometics. After I got married, I stopped doing the olympic lifts and just got into a lifting rut for about 3 years. The past 3 years I have become more serious first adding weight naturally (two cycles) where I add another 25lbs that is where this skin got strached out, and then one cycle with Juice.

Oh I see, you look good though man, after a cutting cycle you will be lookin hard as nails

***Narkissos*** · 07-15-2004, 08:56 AM

Um guy.. i don't think you should've used gear as yet.. (no insult) but even with the years of 'training' behind you, you entered this admittedly with no real goal/game plan. Overall you need more size.Like Majorpecs said, you need to sort out and place emphasis on your diet... then your training before using 'special supplements'

**mstearns76** · 07-15-2004, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by slizzut

Oh I see, you look good though man, after a cutting cycle you will be lookin hard as nails

Thanks

**mstearns76** · 07-15-2004, 09:00 AM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

Um guy.. i don't think you should've used gear as yet.. (no insult) but even with the years of 'training' behind you, you entered this admittedly with no real goal/game plan. Overall you need more size.Like Majorpecs said, you need to sort out and place emphasis on your diet... then your training before using 'special supplements'

I know my diet is very important. It is the one thing looking back that I wish I had put more imphasis on. Like I said above, when "on" I was doing everything like I should, and then When I went off... I ate like I did prior to bulking up and didn't eat enought to maintain the weight.

**Warrior** · 07-15-2004, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by bmf2

What are your goals? (personal or to compete)... and what does your cycle, training and diet look like at this time?...

BUMP

**mstearns76** · 07-15-2004, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Warrior

BUMP

My goals are personal. Maybe someday compete, maybe in about 3 years.
I was always a skinny fast kid growing up, hence the track scholarship. I am currently not on a cycle, I am to start my second in Sept. I would like to end up getting to 250, then cutting back. I think it will take a couple cycles to get up to 250. I realize I have to be more committed to my diet ON and OFF cycles.

**Maraxus** · 07-15-2004, 12:03 PM

Looking god Boss. Maybe a bit more work on your shoulders. Youre coming along nicely though.

**HeavyHitter** · 07-15-2004, 12:17 PM

I agree with the guys.... your lookin really good, maybe some work on your delts and stomache. Keep it up!

**mstearns76** · 07-15-2004, 02:33 PM

Thanks guys... I will take all this in and use it for motivation for the next cycle. DIET, DIET, DIET.

**Ntpadude** · 07-15-2004, 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by mstearns76

I finished my first cycle back in February. I got up to 205 and have come back down (trying to cut up) to 192. Here are some pics, please tell me where I need to improve.

6'1' @192 as of this morning.
Peace...

I think you need to get woman. That way you can have someone to clean all that crap up laying around the room. HAHA... you can always tell the single guys, not only do they have bunch of crap laying around, but they think nothing of posting pictures of it on the internet. A good woman will come clean all that sheet up.

**AandF6969** · 07-15-2004, 06:57 PM

Try lifting heavier. Youve got kind of a soft look to you the muscle doesnt look too dense.

**johndope** · 07-16-2004, 05:01 AM

u definitely need the shoulders m8

**thickmass** · 07-17-2004, 05:59 AM

You sent me a private message but I will reply here.

DO NOT drop anything you've been doing on-cycle when you come off. If you trained better than ever and had a great diet then continue both. The only difference should be that you lift a bit less and perhaps need more rest, but the idea is NOT to diet down after cycles and lose everything.

You look pretty good. Try another cycle and this time maintain the momentum