Posting my Before Pics Here as Well...

**BigGreen** · 06-07-2004, 07:49 PM

And it's with some reluctance that I do so to be honest with you guys. I would have been happy if I wasn't terribly lean, but starting with some good muscularity going into the cycle, or if I didn't have much muscularity but was nice and lean and could build on that. It appears to me I'm sort of neither - not a lot of leanness and not a lot of muscularity either. I mean, i'm not *unhappy* with the pictures by a longshot, but they do have me questioning whether I'm at a level where i "deserve" to stick myself with hormones.

At any rate, I'll copy and paste my self critique from the cycle journal (which you can follow in my signature link...it's gonna be prop and fina).

*a nice small waist for someone six feet tall and some change and having gone as heavy as the 260's in the past.
*Serratus always seem to "pop" even when I'm not too lean...
*I've always liked my shoulders
*HORRIBLE, disgusting biceps
*chest is coming along, but still a weak spot.
*VERY high lats which I'm killing myself trying to get to fill out.
*an overall symmetry I guess, but if everything is somewhat lacking a bit, it's technically symmetry but not the kind I want

Anyway, critiques, suggestions, feedback....should I even realistically be cycling, or should I put some more time in first? I'm going to finish this one since i started it....but for future planned cycles should I "pay my dues" some more first???

EDIT: any guesses at bodyfat? I"m guessing 13 or so?

**barbarian** · 06-07-2004, 07:58 PM

lookin lean as hell...cant wait to see after pics

**Rsox1** · 06-07-2004, 08:28 PM

looking good for the summer bro just eat a lotta clean food and lift real heavy weight and you will fill out in no time

**BASK8KACE** · 06-07-2004, 08:29 PM

You look great, bro. I'd guess your BF at 10-11%. I'm at 12-13%--you don't look like you have as much fat on you as I do.

Best of luck with the cycle!

**UrbanLegend** · 06-07-2004, 10:13 PM

Look like you got a good base, good luck with the cycle bro!

**Ammar** · 06-07-2004, 11:29 PM

I would guess your body fat is around 9-10%...you have a solid frame so far. Just add some good clean bulk to it and you will be set. Keep up that work bro.

**TheMudMan** · 06-08-2004, 08:08 AM

I'd think you bf is closer to 10%........ Look good bro....... Good luck on the cycle!

**Justincase** · 06-08-2004, 10:37 AM

My guess on BF would be around 8 to 9% you look pretty lean.....I would be looking
to add some good mass now if I were you.

**illuzions** · 06-08-2004, 02:09 PM

eat right and train hard..patience is key...good luck

**sepjuice** · 06-09-2004, 03:58 PM

looking lean bro-ready for summer,good work bro.

**bornbad71** · 06-09-2004, 05:21 PM

Looking lean big green. What is your weight in the pic? Can't wait to see the after pics.

**BUYLONGTERM** · 06-10-2004, 08:56 AM

Best of luck on your cycle! You look not only look great, butI agree with everyone you look lean as hell!!! You are going to explode!!!! Best of luck bro, your making me jealous!

**palequail** · 06-10-2004, 10:51 AM

Lookin good Big Green....lean as hell I think.....what weight you at right now???

**TheOak182** · 06-10-2004, 03:32 PM

Looks good, just keep up the intensity!

**BigGreen** · 06-10-2004, 03:33 PM

Thanks for all the feedback all....to be honest, I am not sure what I weight right now and I don't really want to know. In the past, efforts at leaning out and/or bulking up were sabotaged by the fact that I am extremely body dysmorphic and tend to get into this diametric struggle of sorts between two extremes: the number on the scale and the way I look. While bulking, I would love seeing the scale climb as high 265 or so, but would literally become disgusted with the loss of definition. Efforts to reclaim definition by leaning would make me happier with the way I looked, but I'd become frustrated and even distressed when the scale dropped below 235 or so.

For the first time, I've elected to abandon the scale unless there's an emergency of sorts (feel I'm not losing, or losing too much...anything like that) and utilize it only as a necessity so that it can't sabotage my goals by playing those mind tricks on me.

Keep in mind, as well, the point of my training right now is to look somewhat "less than bodybuilder"...as it was put to me quite well by the extremely well-versed individual helping me through this, I need to look slightly more muscular than what you might see in an abercrombie ad, but less muscular than and "wide" than that which would be considered by the average person as a 'bodybuilder' or 'overly-muscley'. I'm not sure what I think of that and how I'll hold up, but I am using it as an opportunity to go into this winter as lean AND full as I can be combination wise so that my bulking endeavors can be clean, efficient and VERY productive.