before and current...

**saint808** · 03-02-2002, 06:17 PM

you can figure which is which.

**saint808** · 03-02-2002, 06:19 PM

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**saint808** · 03-02-2002, 06:20 PM

sorry about the trunks... only ones i have...

all natural so far tried a lil var but was rather dissapointed in current findings that they were half dosed.

**Canes4Ever** · 03-02-2002, 06:26 PM

2nd pic you look awesome brother ! Keep working hard and getting bigger. You bigger guys are a great inspiration to skinny guys like me !

**ann** · 03-02-2002, 08:24 PM

Awesome, Awesome Job !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**HARDCORE** · 03-02-2002, 08:59 PM

Great transformation bro-Keep up the good work-

**broncojosh** · 03-04-2002, 11:01 PM

once you make the transformation it makes you wish you had done it earlier doesn't it. Well it did for me! Great work bro. Keep it up

**RageControl** · 03-04-2002, 11:02 PM

Good job bro.
Are those trunks made out of tin foil?

**Mallet** · 03-05-2002, 02:32 AM

Nice job bro!

What a difference!

How about some stats?

**Kaz** · 03-05-2002, 02:49 AM

looking good bro..... oh and nice hat

**saint808** · 03-05-2002, 03:10 AM

Originally posted by Mallet
Nice job bro!

What a difference!

How about some stats?

5'9" 211, in thos epics.. bf was measured at 16 but i think it's closer to 18... i am having it redone in 2 weeks so i will know mor exact by then.

**muscleup** · 03-05-2002, 07:28 AM

Good work Big man..

**Cleanboy03** · 03-05-2002, 04:58 PM

You put in all that time in the gym and you cannot find a better outfit to wear in your "after" pics. Maybe should have evaluated your time a little better, taken about 20 mins off your last workout and gone and picked out some decent clothes.

**DirkDiggs** · 03-06-2002, 08:31 AM

Nice progress...really inspirational

**MIKE_XXL** · 03-06-2002, 08:36 PM

Good job brother...definitely on the right track so keep going...looking good...MIKE_XXL

**HARDCORE** · 03-06-2002, 10:57 PM

Originally posted by Cleanboy03
You put in all that time in the gym and you cannot find a better outfit to wear in your "after" pics. Maybe should have evaluated your time a little better, taken about 20 mins off your last workout and gone and picked out some decent clothes.

Bro-no need to flame the guy. He obviously worked very hard to get to the point he is at, and is proud of his progress(as he should be). Who gives a shit what he wears in his pics......we are here to support each other-not criticize each other's fashion sense.

**saint808** · 03-07-2002, 04:21 PM

heh doesn't bother me at all. I am happy with my progress.

**Canes4Ever** · 03-07-2002, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by saint808
heh doesn't bother me at all. I am happy with my progress.

Cool bro, don't even think twice about it....what you have done is great, and keep working hard !

**Big Moose** · 03-08-2002, 10:12 PM

Saint, your progress is amazing and inspiring. I know I have said it before but it is true.

**goldenFloyd** · 03-08-2002, 10:40 PM

what the moose said - nice work!

**goldenFloyd** · 03-09-2002, 05:27 PM

was that all the var or just natural dieting? I'm thinking of doing 60mg var/ed, without test because of the acne.

***Sicilian30*** · 03-09-2002, 05:31 PM

Man what a super job, I can't not believe you went from the first pic to the second pic. wow all natural too.. that is awesome... man, you sound like you have good motivation. Keep it up!!! Great job, you deserve a pat on the back.. so go ahead do it, pat yourself on the back.. job well done..

**saint808** · 03-09-2002, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by goldenFloyd
was that all the var or just natural dieting? I'm thinking of doing 60mg var/ed, without test because of the acne.

i was taking half dosed var so it didn't do anyhting for me... but when i figured out my diet it made all the difference in the world.

**specwar** · 03-09-2002, 10:43 PM

Good job Saint...I wish I have ur upper body mass. UR SO FRIGGIN...HUGE.....PEACE....

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GO NAVY....

***the original jason*** · 03-09-2002, 11:27 PM

nice job bro lookin good I like to see transformations like this especially where you didnt lose all your muscle with dieting down naturally what was your diet and training like bro??

peace
Jason

**Rocket** · 03-10-2002, 06:56 AM

Why to go..I lost 85 lbs once and know the hard work you have gone thru..

Rocket

**saint808** · 03-10-2002, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by The Original Jason
nice job bro lookin good I like to see transformations like this especially where you didnt lose all your muscle with dieting down naturally what was your diet and training like bro??

peace
Jason

I lift 4 times a week, standard push pul... like bi's, tri's, and traps, chest and back, legs, shoulders.

With my diet I have been going moderate carb under 100 and then one day carbing up, thing being.... all of it as clean as possible. I'm a firm believer in ECA and NYC products sparing muscle as they help burn fat. Nothin too terrible. The moderate carbs is the key for me tho.