First Pics Been Around Awhile (Need Some advice on were to go from here)

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03-06-2005, 01:33 PM
clubbinkid

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First Pics Been Around Awhile (Need Some advice on were to go from here)

Here we go in the pics 6'0 204lbs my hand held bf tester says 16.5%bf (dont no how accurate that is)

i got mad extra skin from being 275 couple yrs ago

currently doing HIT training and love just ended my 3rd week and 1st week of going all out to full muscular failure

Iam right now doing a cutter
diet looks like this

Meal 1 8am
8large eggwhites
1/4 cup fat free cheses(in eggs)
2 mushrooms (cut preparded in eggs)
2 piece of whole wheat toast (under 30 carbs)

Meal 2 10:30-11am
1 sccop protein powder(low car with water)
1tbsp flax
4oz turkey breast

Meal 3 1:30-2pm
8oz chicken Breast
1 cup green veggies

Meal 4 4:30-5pm
1/2 cup oats
1tbsp sugar free jam
1 sccop protein powder(low carb with water)

meal 5 7:30-8pm
8oz chicken breast
1 cup green veg
2tbsp natural pnb

Meal 6 Pwo shake 10:00-10:30
2 sccop protein powder(low carb with water)
3 scoops ultra fuel mixed with the protein
(i no this shake at the as the last meal isnt too good but i got to train late due to schedule and training when the gym is lees crowded)

drink 1 1/2-2 gallons of water day beside what i drink in the gym

on off days in the gym ill take in a shake were the pwo shake is

in this diet i think efa is screwed up tell me if its okay or need to add some and were

My ques is this what i should be doin cutting as were i am at in the pics

what i wanted to do wonder if this is okay cut till the end of th month then do a mini bulk diet according lean mass diet by mike xxl to my stats then cut again june- aug so i gain lil size and be somewhat cut during the summer then in september start a traditional bulk ova winter cut b4 the summer. idk if i am in left with this tell me what u guys think
03-06-2005, 01:35 PM
clubbinkid

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extra skin

cant take the extra skin
03-06-2005, 01:44 PM
yooo

How old u bro?

U got a nice base, id bulk right now if i was u, then cut, fill in some of that skin bro...JMO

Good luck
03-06-2005, 01:46 PM
clubbinkid

thanx

21 all natural just supps
03-06-2005, 01:48 PM
ironpumpindoc

yeah, you need to put on some quality lean muscle to fill in where all that fat is gone now. Or you can get really expensive surgery and have lots of scars . . . i recommend the first for you wallet, self esteem, and sanity.
03-06-2005, 01:49 PM
ironpumpindoc

read the diet sticky's, this will help a lot . . . the one about bulking or putting on lean mass will help you alot. Also do cardio in the mornings about 3 days a week to avoid putting a lot of fat back on while you are gaining weight. Just my thoughts.
03-06-2005, 02:14 PM
Jantzen4k

that picture of you pulling chest is GROSS! :eek:

congrats on weight loss. looking good!
03-06-2005, 06:56 PM
clubbinkid

ok guys im gonna try the bulk thing keep a lean bulk and post updates in a couple weeks

Meal 1: Pro/Carb

8 Egg Whites, 1 Scoop Of Whey Protein, 1 cup oatmeal

50g protein / 54g carbs / 5g fat

Meal 2: Pro/Fat

Lean Ground Beef, ¼ cup swiss cheese, green veggies

55g protein / 2g carbs / 20g fat

Meal 3: Pro/Carb

Chicken Breast, 1 and a half cup Brown Rice

55g protein / 64g carbs / 3g Fat
**Disclaimer: Meal 3 can be a pro/fat meal if you are ultra sensitive to carb intake.

Meal 4: Pro/Fat

2 Cans of Tuna, 1 Tbsp Full Fat Mayonnaise, Veggies

60g protein / 2g carbs / 13g Fat

Workout

Meal 5: PWO Nutrition

2 Scoops Whey Protein / 80g of Dextrose

40g protein / 80g carbs / 0g fat

Meal 6: PPWO

Boneless Skinless Chicken Breast, ½ cup Brown Rice (Measured Uncooked)

50g protein / 70g carbs / 3g fat

Meal 7: Pro/Fat

Lean Protein of your choice, 2 Tbsp Natural Peanut Butter
50g protein / 5g carbs / 18g fat

Meal 8: Before Bed

3 Scoops of Whey Protein, 1.5 Tbsp. Flax Seed Oil

60g protein / 3g carbs / 21g Fat

ok this is the diet layout not fit to my needs yet but i will do that tonite my ques is i usually dont get to the gym til late lik 9-10oclock now i no its not the best thing to take in all them carbs b4 bed so im gonna try to get their earlier on the days i can get theere early i will follow that plan and the days i get their late will take in post workout carbs right afta i lift b4 bed i guess is that ok

one other ques is i got some creatine monohydrate here wanna use it up whats i good dosage to take
03-06-2005, 07:45 PM
EatRite

you need more carbs... eat lots of fruits... and more brown rice and oatmeal...
03-06-2005, 07:48 PM
EatRite

it looks like you are on a protein diet... if you arent using aas you need to cut back the protein about 15 g to 20 g in meals 2,3,4 and 8... and replace those calories with brown rice and fruits...

you dont weigh enough to be eating over 430 g of protein... i'd cut it back to 225 to 250 g... 275 max... and replace those calories with carbohydrates man... you are eating way too much protein for a natural bodybuilder....
03-06-2005, 07:48 PM
EatRite

the most protein you should eat is 1.5 g of protein per pound of bodyweight...
03-06-2005, 07:51 PM
clubbinkid

Thanx

I Just Pmed U Thanks 4 Takin A Look

Def Had That In Mind Cut Back On The Pro And Add Some More Carbs All Fruits Are Ok Any Good Ones In Paticular Any Other Carbs Besides Brown Rice
03-06-2005, 08:02 PM
EatRite

other complex carbs: oatmeal (natural), wheat, multigrain or whole grain breads or crackers, wheat waffles are great (eggo makes em), you can get almost anything in wheat...

fruits:stay away from banana's if you are prone to getting fat, they are high on the g.i. index... stick with apples, oranges, straberries, etc... just stay away from banana's except for postworkout they are fine....
03-06-2005, 08:08 PM
clubbinkid

Bro U Been A Great Help Wit Some Crucial Info I Need B4 Plan This Diet Out In A Lil..............the Other Things From Those Pics Do U Feel A Lean Bulk To Fill In The Skin Is The Way To Go

Is That U In The Aviator If Its Look Scary Big Lol Thanx
03-06-2005, 08:12 PM
Iowa

Hell of a job on the weight loss bro. Excellent job.
03-06-2005, 08:22 PM
EatRite

yea thats me in the avatar...

if you are prone to gaining weight, then i'd try a lean bulk and see where it gets you, if you arent gaining weight add a little bit more food (about 300 cal's a day) for a few weeks and see how much of a dif. that makes... if you are gaining too much fat do the opposite... it takes time so dont get anxious and jump the gun and start pounding food if you arent gaining weight... a lean bulk is the hardest bulk, so the gains will come much slower... just eat healthily and work out hard......

any more questions i'lll be more than happy to answer
03-06-2005, 08:24 PM
BodyMechanic

[QUOTE=Jantzen4k]that picture of you pulling chest is GROSS! :eek:

that is exactly what i thought when i saw it. Good job Man. I would def. do a lean mass cycle.
03-06-2005, 08:31 PM
EatRite

[QUOTE=BodyMechanic]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jantzen4k

that picture of you pulling chest is GROSS! :eek:

that is exactly what i thought when i saw it. Good job Man. I would def. do a lean mass cycle.

it looksl ike you're giving youself a coupla titty twisters... not my idea of a good time... :?:
03-06-2005, 08:44 PM
clubbinkid

Lol Eat Rite Thanx I Pmed U With A Ques If U Can Reply Would Appreciate It
03-06-2005, 10:39 PM
EatRite

that fourth pic is a great pic of your back... makes you look huge for some reason...

good cut man... keep up the hard work and you'll get big naturally in no time...
03-06-2005, 10:44 PM
Hed

Quote:

Originally Posted by EatRite

that fourth pic is a great pic of your back... makes you look huge for some reason...

good cut man... keep up the hard work and you'll get big naturally in no time...

exactly the one i noticed too. you look big in the 4th one.
03-06-2005, 10:49 PM
zuke

at 21 dont you think that his skin will have the ability to tighten up some on its own? i'm not saying not to try to put on mass, but i would think that your skin would have some resiliency
03-06-2005, 11:08 PM
EatRite

his skin is like a big rubber band... "he's got skills"