guess bodyfat?

**livewire57** · 12-13-2005, 02:40 PM

hey i recently posted pics of my 4 month progress before and after.. here are some more pics before and after cutting and dieting. Can you guess my bf% based on the second pic? i was roughly 20% in the first one.

**305GUY** · 12-13-2005, 02:43 PM

Why are you cutting? You should have just lean bulked from your first pic.

**livewire57** · 12-13-2005, 02:44 PM

shit! sorry about the messy bathroom especially in the first pic, bunch of messy frat guys what do you expect. we probably tapped a keg in that bathroom the night before or something that explains it

**Hellmaskbanned** · 12-13-2005, 02:45 PM

Your loseing weight thats for sure.
How much did you say you weighed in the 1st one, 240?
You look much lower then that now, what you at now?

**livewire57** · 12-13-2005, 02:46 PM

Originally Posted by 305GUY

Why are you cutting? You should have just lean bulked from your first pic.

because i was really fat with a high bf%, putting on muscle would have done nothing i still would look fat, so i figured id cut down to a lower bodyfat then do a lean bulk.

**livewire57** · 12-13-2005, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Your loseing weight thats for sure.
How much did you say you weighed in the 1st one, 240?
You look much lower then that now, what you at now?

i weighed 255 in the first one and now anywhere between 226-230

**Hellmaskbanned** · 12-13-2005, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by livewire57

i weighed 255 in the first one and now anywhere between 226-230

I'm similiar to you in height and weight.
At the end of september I cutted down to 235lbs then I had surgery and got down to 217. It sucked, couldn't stand being that small so I got back up to 240 in alittle over a month, and now I'm doing a lean bulk diet to kinda cut/gain muscle instead of losing. You should try to eat alot of clean foods so you dont shrink away. Your not carrying alot of fat now so start to bulk it.

**Hackamaniac** · 12-13-2005, 02:56 PM

damn how tall are you fellas

**TADOLFI** · 12-13-2005, 03:00 PM

If I had to guess - maybe 12 - 14 %? Could be a couple off - hard to pinpoint with one angle.
Good call on losing the weight first.
Go natural for a while and see what gains you get.
Good Luck Bro

**livewire57** · 12-13-2005, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Hackamaniac

damn how tall are you fellas

6'3, not good for gaining muscle

**Hellmaskbanned** · 12-13-2005, 05:00 PM

hey livewire
what weight you trying to get down to?
Or are you just trying to get as much fat off as you can then back on the muscle, so theres no flab hideing it?

**livewire57** · 12-13-2005, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

hey livewire
what weight you trying to get down to?
Or are you just trying to get as much fat off as you can then back on the muscle, so theres no flab hideing it?

i'm not trying to get down to a certain weight, id be happy staying at the weight im at right now im just trying to shed fat and maybe get down to 10% so i can bulk up and have no flab hiding it like you said

**Kale** · 12-13-2005, 06:12 PM

I reckon about 15%

**Mealticket** · 12-13-2005, 06:46 PM

YOu have on Scooby Doo underwear
WOW!!!!

**chest6** · 12-13-2005, 07:44 PM

15% or so

**testosterona** · 12-13-2005, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by livewire57

because i was really fat with a high bf%, putting on muscle would have done nothing i still would look fat, so i figured id cut down to a lower bodyfat then do a lean bulk.

lean bulking is very hard too do. you will put on fat and you will put on water, it's impossible too avoid assuming you are a hard gainer. IMO, you should'v bulked first then cut, you took a few steps back, but you def did cut BF.

**Pinnacle** · 12-13-2005, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by Mealticket

YOu have on Scooby Doo underwear
WOW!!!!

OMG I just saw that..bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

**livewire57** · 12-14-2005, 10:37 AM

those boxers are awesome. i love showing girls my scooby snack
that wasnt too corny was it

**Mizfit** · 12-14-2005, 10:40 AM

Why dont u get it tested

**mrsuperpump** · 12-14-2005, 02:02 PM

i see u got the stuff mag and the toilet paper going on over there...hahaha must of been some frat party just u and the boys huh..and the mags..and t.p......lmao

jks

**daytrader** · 12-14-2005, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by livewire57

i weighed 255 in the first one and now anywhere between 226-230

Damn dude you were 255 in the first and 230 in the second! shit id nver of guessed that high.... Id say you look about 200 tops in the secand mayb 230 in the first..... Its all good though bro good progress def.... i like the other bros ideas try a lean bulk.....

**Anabolic CEO** · 12-14-2005, 02:47 PM

Correct me if i am wrong but not only are those boxers Scooby Doo, but are they inside out also? Must of been a long night................LMAO

***Narkissos*** · 12-14-2005, 11:53 PM

Originally Posted by Mizfit

Why dont u get it tested

my thoughts exactly

**Mizfit** · 12-15-2005, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

my thoughts exactly

Some people it's really easiy to tell but we all hold fat different...my twin and me r identical but my muscle mass is higher than hers.. we weigh the same though

**stayinstacked** · 12-15-2005, 10:28 AM

I'd say he's floating around 14% range. If you weighed less it'd be possible to be like 12%, but you have to take into account your around 225 lbs. From my cutting experience, 10% is when you start to see ripples or outlines in the abs, but 6-7 % is when you can actually see abs, like seperation between them all, and 5% or so is when you can make out the full block shape of each individual ab.

**livewire57** · 12-15-2005, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by stayinstacked

I'd say he's floating around 14% range. If you weighed less it'd be possible to be like 12%, but you have to take into account your around 225 lbs. From my cutting experience, 10% is when you start to see ripples or outlines in the abs, but 6-7 % is when you can actually see abs, like seperation between them all, and 5% or so is when you can make out the full block shape of each individual ab.

wow stayinstacked great info. i didnt think my bf was that high at 14%, i was 20% 4 months ago but i lost 30 lbs since then, kind of disappointing that 30 lbs later and i only shed 6%. i would get tested but apparantly the bodyfat tests conducted by personal trainers cant really be trusted.

**stayinstacked** · 12-18-2005, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by livewire57

wow stayinstacked great info. i didnt think my bf was that high at 14%, i was 20% 4 months ago but i lost 30 lbs since then, kind of disappointing that 30 lbs later and i only shed 6%. i would get tested but apparantly the bodyfat tests conducted by personal trainers cant really be trusted.

Nah, your def floating around 14% I'd say. At 10% you would see the ripples in the abdominals, not clearly, but you'd see them. It's not till around 7 % you can make out the clear 6 pack. What I meant when I pm'd ya about the carb,fat,protien ratio, was try to only eat protien/carb or protien/fat meals. I dont mean ZERO carbs, I mean if there is a food that has 25 grams protien and the fat source has 14 grams of fats but like 1 or 2 grams of carbs then eat it. Just dont eat something w/ 25 grams protien,something w/ 20 grams carbs, then something w/ 20 grams fats all in one meal. Vegetables carbs are ok to throw in w/ your protien/fat meal though. They really arent considered as much of a carb source as they are antioxidents, plus they help fill you up. When I cut my daily diet would look something like this;

breakfast- 12 egg whites w. hot sauce, 1 cup of oats

mid morning- 1 skinless chicken breast, 3 spoonfulls of natty pb, 1 cup mixed veggies

lunch- 1 skinless chicken breast, 2 servings of rice

pre workout- 2 cans of tuna, 2 sevings flax oil, veggies

Train

PWO- I'll do a protien shake but I dont do the sugar after 4 wks on the diet, instead i use a potato or a serving of white rice or something along those lines. Personally I eat white potatos instead of sweet.

meal 6- 12 egg whites w/ salsa or hot sauce, 1/2-3/4 cup of oats, 2 servings flax oil, 1/2-3/4 cup mixed veggies

Also be sure to hit up mad amino acids and glutamine, it will def help retain muscle while your cutting. This is not the only way to diet, but its what works for me, and it works fast. BTW, my PM is down for awhile, I think my girl has been going on here lately. peace