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    17...long off-cycle

    been off for almost 3 months now....hell of a hard time keeping any gains, but i have started gaining natural now. i'm not even taking supplements anymore, i've decided to give it a go like this...see how far i can push my body in the next 6 months without anything. i;ve been under a lot of stress this week (death in the family and gf left me) so i lost about 6 pounds...this way i;ve discovered how bad it is to lose 6 pounds of real muscle vs losing 6 pounds of mostly water on-cycle.

    anyways...here goes. lot smaller than i used to be, but a bit tighter (i also got fatter this last week because of the stess and i lost my striations)
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    i couldn;t get the arm in the back to contract in time because i used it to push the button on the camera. therefore it has no definition in this pic.
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    this here is the same...i couldn't get the arms to contract in time
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    u look pretty good man.......hope this thread doesnt turn into another 4 page arguement like last time.....

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    sets bro ,u still lookin fuckin yoked bro!thatsa good idea ,see how u can do it natural for a bit ,the gear will always be there .good luck .

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    Yup...still looking big. Glad to hear you're giving it a break.

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    I want a vein that big sticking out of my shoulder!

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    You might have lost 6 pounds but your still looking fantastic bro! If you need some time off then you should really take some time off. Take it easy bro, stress can really be hard on the body! Keep training hard, and keep us posted!

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    Still looking good bro!

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    i lost a lot more than 6 pounds when i got off. those 6 pound i lost in the last week because of stress, nothing juice related.

    i don't need a rest. my body is ready to go again with all the juice i can put in it...but i just want to give being natural a try. i'm perfectly healthy, not juicing is a choice. nothing's forcing me.

    thanks for all the positive feedback....

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    You actually look more solid and leaner in these shots then the old ones...
    Maybe because you're holding less water being off, but you haven't really lost any size that I can see...
    I know how personal problems can effect your focus and training... Good luck with dealing with them and keep your head up... Things always get better...

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    Excellent job, bro. Keep at it.

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    actually buff...i lost an inch in my arms...i am a lot leaner so that's why in pics i may appear the same...but i lost an inch in my arms and the shoulders are a lot smaller.

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    Looking good. Keep it up.

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    Originally posted by setsthesun
    actually buff...i lost an inch in my arms...i am a lot leaner so that's why in pics i may appear the same...but i lost an inch in my arms and the shoulders are a lot smaller.
    No a bad tradeoff to look that tight bro... You look a hell of alot leaner...You'll gain that inch back and then some probably before you even run another cycle...

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    Definitely looking more lean than your previous pictures. Diesel to say the least!

    It is good to hear that you're trying to see how far you can push yourself naturally, and I know what it feels like to have life get in the way and you lose those precious hard earned lbs of mass. (I lost 20lbs personally from october-nov 02)

    Dust yourself off and try again...I'm sure you know it only gets better.

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    oh i know i'll win it natural. because i want to.

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    what do you mean by diesel?

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    funny thing is i find it a lot easier to keep the fat of when i'm natural

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    looking jacked brother. and VERY good idea pushing yourself naturally, alot of guys get in this mind set were training "off" makes them miserable, its really sad too see. regardless of the feeling being "on" gives you, keep pushing it natrually, you'll appreciate your gains a hell of alot more, because you got them on your own, which takes alot more time and work.
    im not trying too offend anyone here, i myself will openly admit i dont plan on being natural for life by any means, and know using steroids does not mean your not as dediacted as myself or other natural lifters. all im saying is its alot harder to have your progress slowed down once being on, because obviously the gains arent so easy to obtain, so its easy to get discouraged. keep with it, and happy growing.
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    Looking bloody big and hard...whatever you have been doing keep it up...

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    Amazing bro ... Im diggin does verins !

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    Looking great for 17 i see you are losing hair !!!!! am sure its because of AS on young age.

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    Great pics bro! Lets see some back and wheels!

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    Fantastic bro. Try to keep milking it naturally. Good luck with your future cycles, just be damn sure you don't take it to the breaking point.

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    No offense setsthesun, but you look 40 years old in a bodybuilders body.

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    'big" dan ,bro ur in no possition to make comments bro ,after looking at your pics !

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    Christ!!!

    You're looking awesome bro! I'm twice your age and probably half your size

    Just went back and looked again at your first set of pics... you definetly look a lot more defined and less watery in the new pictures. Good job!

    Red
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    You look awesome bro especially at your age...the sky is the limit for you in bodybuilding! Good luck and keep us posted on your gains...

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    thanks again guys. dan, could you explain your comment?

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    Originally posted by Magicz
    Looking great for 17 i see you are losing hair !!!!! am sure its because of AS on young age.
    I gotta agree on this one.Hair looks like it's thinning for a 17 year old!? How many cycles do you have under your belt? Regardless you look badass bro.

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    If I remember right you were saying that you injected 1000mg+/test/week...?
    With that amount of gear I would believe you should have been bigger...

    You look good, but you should have achived that naturally IMO...

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    by 17....maybe/
    i injected that one week. the rest was half that dosage. check the on-cycle pics for how big i was

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    Originally posted by Big_Dan
    No offense setsthesun, but you look 40 years old in a bodybuilders body.
    wtf is that in your avatar?

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    its a pitue of him

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    Originally posted by big N
    its a pitue of him
    maybe i'm not saying it correctly to myself but what's a pitue bro....Madmax...

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    ahh, check your posing.

    from arnie on pumping iron along the lines : remember one thing when you pose, a lot of little guys they hide away when they pose. when they do an arm pose they do like this. ok the big will come right up with his arm. so don't do it, never hide away. right now you did like this. show them, show them the whole thing. open up the body.


    you'll know what i'm talking about if you watched it.

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