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    I'm back, and bigger

    -Whats goin on people? Well as some of you might remember i hurt my back, so i only been training for about a month/month and a half now. Still off and on wanted to take it easy. I am ready to dive back in head first. So what do you people think i need to work on, this is just of my upper body for now. By the way, i have been diagnosed with ''small fore arm syndrome'' any one got a cure that works?

    -I am only 16 yrs old, I dont want to juce, I figured i would mention that, so i dont get a 100 flames tellin me why i shouldent juce.

    -Ok, i dont know my max lifts yet, i will post that this weekend,

    -Age:16
    -Height:5'7
    -Weight:143-148 (my weight go's up and down so damn much its unbelieveable)
    -Started out just before i turned 16 at 125 (ish) pounds. Then i got hurt and -stumbled all the way back down.

    -Flame away, i am not the sensitive type at all, i need constructive critisism.

    -If my spelling is alil off its because i dont have MS word any more

    -Thanks for all input
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    Well you can't tell too much from the pics but I'd say just some over all mass is what ya need. Try to maintain BF I'd say or atleast try to keep it close to wher it is now, it'll make it easier for you later. good luck

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    It's hard to tell from those pics, but your traps seem to be coming along nicely. IMO you need more mass.

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    No flame from me bro. MS Word is a great tool

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    -What do you guys suggest on best ways to put on mass with out getting a gut? I have whey protine, and creatine.

    -Thanks for the compliment on the traps mike.

    -what do you guys think? How much and when each day?

    -I would post more pics but my bro has my camera untill friday.

    -What is ''IMO''?

    My diet:

    Wake up at 6:30, 6 eggs glass of milk

    Lunch at 11, atleast 3 sandwiches (turky/ham/tuna) most days i will eat 4.

    Home before work (2:30-2:50) 20 mins to eat everything in sight, 2 or 3 of them hot pocket things, (i got like 10 mins to eat, 3 mins to cook, and 7 mins to eat)

    After work 7:00, most of the time it is 2 large bowls of pasta. (italian)

    Before i go to sleep, 11:00, most of the time it is leftovers.

    Gym time is normally 7:30-8:30.

    - Anything that should be changed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROST
    --What is ''IMO''?
    in my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by mass junkie
    in my opinion
    Crap, I always thought it meant "I imagine".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ntpadude
    Crap, I always thought it meant "I imagine".
    whatever works I guess

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    I'd eat a little different, try to get more protein in there. In that time where you have 10 minutes try to get something thats protein, or actually make some oatmeal in that time and have some whey with it. There should be enough time for that as it only takes probably 3 minutes to cook as well and it's much better for you. The pasta is good, get some meatballs with that so you have some protein, just remember to get enough carbs and protein, your protein SHOULD be at about 1g per lb of body weight and generally you want more carbs then protein (unless dieting). The eggs in the morning sounds fthe right stuff, you'll end up a monster!

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    If you're bulking, id keep your protien a lot higher than 1g per lb. I'd go 1.5 atleast and keep it in 50 gram increments.

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    So! here is the upper body, legs need some work so i dont see the use of posting. Well, i seem to think that my shoulders are my best feature, but lets see what you peoples think. I got the GNC whey protine, it doesent seem to mix well, what the hell do you people mix it with, i always end up drinking sandy milk, and suggestion?

    Bulking all winter long

    BTW: Not juceing, all natureal baby.

    16 years old

    Will you people please flame or something, lol give me some feedback!
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    You can see your face in the first pic you posted if you look in the mirror in the background. Just to let you know.

    Also, are you a wrestler kid? Your neck is huge for 16.

    Mass, mass. At 16, I’m willing to bet that everything is moving in your body so quick that weight gainers would be a good idea. A small serving to mix with milk and drink with your lunch. Also, you go from 6:30 until 11:00 without eating. Damn hommie…you should be starving in that time. I used to go nuts in class dreaming of lunch time. At 9:00 pop open your “lunch box” and eat a protein bar and an apple. Bring an extra fruit or healthy snack like some nuts to eat an hour before school ends. Then go home and rush to eat.

    Also, to be honest. Time will prove to be the best “emassifier.” LOL…I make up words all the time.

    All that hard work will just yield tremendous results when you get older. Sorry.


    OH AND THIS IS VITAL. VITAL, VITAL, VITAL.

    You’re young. You’re spending a lot of your bodies energies that it’s using at your age to grow naturally. Bones, some organs, height. So you need carbs, and TONS, I’m talking TONS of sleep man.

    You need TONS of sleep dude.

    Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by DocHoliday
    Also, are you a wrestler kid? Your neck is huge for 16.
    Yeah, 2 years varsity wrestling, and alil time boxing.

    Thanks for the neck compliment!

    This is a prob, i can never sleep, seriously, i dont think i have gotten a night of sleep past 7 hours in like a year. they say if i want more sleep i have to go to bed earlyer opsed to sleeping in and even when i try i cant fall asleep before 11:30-12:30 its imposible. But i guess i will have to work on that.

    Measurements: Were all taken cold (not after workout)
    neck-17in
    Forearm-11in
    Bi/tri-13in
    Chest-37 1/4in
    Calf(spelling?)-15in
    Thigh-21

    Thanks Doc!

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    Im trying to think of something to flame you about, hmmml.... I'll think of something later.

    Your diet sux.

    Try to eat every 2-3 hours if possible , i know that be hard with school and all. At least 5-6 times a day if possible, and do what btdr suggested, get about 50g protein with each meal.

    My most fav source of protein is raw eggs. They are cheap as hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigMike J
    Im trying to think of something to flame you about, hmmml.... I'll think of something later.

    Your diet sux.
    Haha, dick, LOL

    Well, train harder to get more tired. After I lift hard I’m pretty sluggish. Well at first I have mad energy, then when I get in my car and drive home….by the time I get home, I’m like mmmm protein shake and AR.

    You’re in high man, those times suck anyway. Just got to bed early so when you’re in college you aints gots to worries. The bod will be in check and you’ll be aight.

    SLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP.

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    Yeah I guess I should have said it the first time BDTR is right on, ATLEAST 1 g per lb and 1.5 is better. I didn't notice yur neck at firstbt it is well developed. Change that diet and see what happens

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostUp
    Yeah I guess I should have said it the first time BDTR is right on, ATLEAST 1 g per lb and 1.5 is better. I didn't notice yur neck at firstbt it is well developed. Change that diet and see what happens
    Thanks, diet change will start on monday. I will be bringing protine bars to school and in between periods i will chow down. Thanks for the neck compliment. To get a idea of how my neck size is compaired to my body, whats is some of your neck sizes?

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    mine is 17.5" !!! so your a big necked kid i wish ive got your size when i was that age. keep it up!!! bdtr and lostup give you very good diet advise

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    wouppss i mean 18.5" yours still very big

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRLS63
    wouppss i mean 18.5" yours still very big
    Thanks for the measurments, yeah i'd say that you at 18.5/212 and me at 17/145 is pretty good . I just looked at your pics the the clothes forum, damn! is all i gotta say. I am putting my favorite shirt away so i can try it on in 2 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by FROST
    Thanks, diet change will start on monday. I will be bringing protine bars to school and in between periods i will chow down.
    Bro, not just protein bars (you'll go broke and you'll also get fed up)

    I suggest protein bars, protein shakes (weight gainers), and lots and lots of tuna. Tuna is the bodybuilders friend (no matter how disgusting it tastes).

    If your friends don't call you "tuna man" from always seeing you with a can and fork in hand, you're not eating enough of it. (yeah you recognize yourselves eh guys? )

    I'd be aiming at roughly 250-300g of protein spread out in 6 meals thru the day. A little tip, get a small notebook and write down how many grams of protein you eat every day. Count it out. You might be surprised how little you're really getting.

    With school it may not be easy, but you can wolf down a can of tuna between 2 classes, down a protein shake here, a bar there... many of us do that thru the day at work There is always a way!

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    Tuna is a good idea, good for me that i like it lol. 6 meals shouldent be too hard, i am eating atleast 6 meals a day, just not of the rite stuff. yeah, i work to, school is 8:-2:15, and work 3:-7.

    All coments/flames welcomed

    like 600 views and only 20 resonces, come on people

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    at your age gear can make you go from "john doe" to "JOHN HOLMES"

    you might rethink your options as at your age your window of opportunity is closing rapidly

    just my $0.02

    and if used with letrozol the extra test will even increase linear bone growth-yes that means you will get taller

    and please no debates here people--do a word search on Let and test or linear growth--its not a secret

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    Quote Originally Posted by strongweapon
    at your age gear can make you go from "john doe" to "JOHN HOLMES"

    you might rethink your options as at your age your window of opportunity is closing rapidly

    just my $0.02

    and if used with letrozol the extra test will even increase linear bone growth-yes that means you will get taller

    and please no debates here people--do a word search on Let and test or linear growth--its not a secret
    i think i miss something i dont think theres any issue about aas in his post... hes natty!
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    Quote Originally Posted by strongweapon
    at your age gear can make you go from "john doe" to "JOHN HOLMES"

    you might rethink your options as at your age your window of opportunity is closing rapidly

    just my $0.02

    and if used with letrozol the extra test will even increase linear bone growth-yes that means you will get taller

    and please no debates here people--do a word search on Let and test or linear growth--its not a secret
    I know the factor of using gear young is over stressed, that was discused on one of my older posts, but what will that do to my heart? I dont have a history of heart problems but wouldent that grouth at a young age really put stress on my heart? What other risk factors would be worse about using gear young, opsed to useing when i am 21, or even 25? woluld it be easyer to keep my gains because i am young and my body adjusted to it oposed to gaining toms of musle after my grouth plates closed?

    I am curious, not actually considering using AS at y age.

    BTW: wasent John Holmes a porn star? lol but seriously?

    All responces appreciated
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    My neck is about 17 inches if I don't flex it (wow I never purposely flexed my neck before this post) and over 18 inches if I do (I didn't really know I could flex it that much). I got new pics maybe I should post em up... hmmmm

    Just to give you some food ideas for good carbs and proteins I always like to eat oatmeal a banana and some whey powder in the morning, or some eggs and sausage maybe, the tuna really is a best friend, peanut butter, beef, chicken, turkey, fish if you like it, pasta, rice, bread, all of these are good things to eat to put on size. the obviou things basically. Icecream, eat it as itself or mix it with a proten shake, makes some tasty weight gainer shakes

    If you want to up your forearms try some farmers walks, and wrist curls.

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    No no... he was telling him TO DO steroids . Read it again.

    Quote Originally Posted by TRLS63
    i think i miss something i dont think theres any issue about aas in his post... hes natty!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdtr
    No no... he was telling him TO DO steroids. Read it again.
    Indeed he is....

    I am surprised he didn't get banned for promoting gear to a minor... it's just slighly against board policy...

    Red

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    It should be really a lot more than SLIGHTLY against board policy. Much worse than source posting IMO.

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