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    Starting up...Here's current pics

    Well i did one weak cycle last year sust only, and gained about 12-15lbs. Went from 185 to about 200. Im currently 197, 6'3", late 20's, and body fat is somewhere 8-12% (not sure). Yes i am skinny, working on that though...

    Startn my 2end cycle this week.
    Test Cyp 400mg/week 1-10
    Tren 75mg/eod 1-6
    Proviron 25mg/ed 2-10
    Ldex .25ml/ed 2-10 or as needed
    Clomid PCT

    215lbs is my goal.
    FYI: Need help with Tri's, and Lats (need width).
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    Looking good bro. I like the definition and development in your back. Good luck on your cycle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daman1
    Looking good bro. I like the definition and development in your back. Good luck on your cycle!
    Thanks bro..
    Any suggestions on getting some width on the lats? I normally do Bent-over dumbell rows, seated rows, lat pull-downs. Not sure about the terminology, but you probably get what im sayn...

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    looking cut...for lat width I love pull-ups..can't beat em....

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    Looking cut.. Tighten those abs up.. What are you looking to do bulk or cut ?

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    Lat Width =

    Pull ups - Explode up, and take it nice and slow(6-8 seconds) ALL the way down...You'd be surprised how much the slow eccentric works you...I like to go index finger where the bar bends. Some go wider and go all the way to the end...Try it and see where you feel your lats most...

    Pull Downs - Again explode down(controlled = 2 seconds down) and slow all the way up. Make sure you pull down with the lats not arms(bis/forearms). Every so often I like to strap in, up the weight, and blast the lats. Called lat shrug-downs....No arm involvement, just shrug down with the lats...Supposedly a real mass builder...

    Supposed lat development: Supposedly keeping the elbows close to the side works lats, while elbows facing out work back more. E.g. One arm rows with hand close to side(palm facing in), close grip t-bar row, close grip cable rows, etc....

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    love weighted pull ups for the lats and on the tris's, gotta hit the weighted dips, try those for awhile and see what happens

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    deadlifts!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ItalianMuscle
    Looking cut.. Tighten those abs up.. What are you looking to do bulk or cut ?
    Thanks guys for the comments...And the Lat tips too.
    For this cycle im going for a bulking cycle. I have a very high metablisim. Never in my life have i tried to get cut, thats just the way it is.

    As far as the abs go, i actually have a 4 pac, lower abs dont show thru. Then again, i never work-out my abs. Should i do weighted movements, or natural movements (sit ups, crunches, etc...)

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    Bodyfat probably closer to 12%. Work you shoulders and yout look will inprove dramatically. Tall guys have a hard time looking big but wide shoulders help a lot.

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    Looks good...i would do some nasty pull ups & RDL's for your back and maybe abs everyday.

    Good Luck!

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    do your back with intensity...heavy rows, chins...do your lat pulls with heavy but managable weight...and hold it for a sec...close grip for the v look

    i havent heard of deadlifts increasin span...but they are awesome for raw power and stability

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    Finally here are some pic's after my first real cycle. Though these are from the end of may. Im was about 212lbs here
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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit
    Thanks guys for the comments...And the Lat tips too.
    For this cycle im going for a bulking cycle. I have a very high metablisim. Never in my life have i tried to get cut, thats just the way it is.

    As far as the abs go, i actually have a 4 pac, lower abs dont show thru. Then again, i never work-out my abs. Should i do weighted movements, or natural movements (sit ups, crunches, etc...)
    Seems to be a little more chub than 4 pack.
    Work the abs to keep your core strong and in check

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynsb
    Seems to be a little more chub than 4 pack.
    Work the abs to keep your core strong and in check


    LOL..... what is with you and abs???


    <<LMO>>

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    LOL..... what is with you and abs???


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    He has been a burden like this since he stepped foot on the board. Just ignore him

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
    LOL..... what is with you and abs???


    <<LMO>>
    He has a strange ab fetish. I figure abs give him wood and he's disappointed when he doesn't see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by detroit
    Finally here are some pic's after my first real cycle. Though these are from the end of may. Im was about 212lbs here
    Good job, did u stay on cycle for 5 months?

    I also noticed you chose to not hide your identity this time, what changed over the course of those 5 months?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nynsb
    Seems to be a little more chub than 4 pack.
    Work the abs to keep your core strong and in check
    You can't even clearly see his mid-section because of his arms.

    "Chub"........ Let's see your pics brutha to showcase what a perfect six pack of abs looks like.

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    i think i recognize you

    you ever frequent skyclub in royal oak or any of the 5th avenues?

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    Whats your bulking diet look like?

    Also, do you do squats and deadlift?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    Good job, did u stay on cycle for 5 months?

    I also noticed you chose to not hide your identity this time, what changed over the course of those 5 months?

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    No i cycled from End of March to End of May (3months). I have been real lazy on posting my after pic's. Half my head is chopped off and i have a goofy look on my face so i dont think anyone will notice me...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by GQSuperman
    you ever frequent skyclub in royal oak or any of the 5th avenues?
    No only 5th in Novi every once and a while.

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    not bad bro, nice and lean ready to put on some weight. for lat width I like wide grip pulldowns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AandF6969
    Whats your bulking diet look like?

    Also, do you do squats and deadlift?
    I have a really high metabolism so i cant get enough cal's, i shoot for 3500-4000, but next time ill TRY to shoot higher because i made it to 215lbs by week 10 and never made any gains the final 2 weeks.

    Yes i do squats all the time, but i dont do dead lifts to often.

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    Do deads man, they help a lot with back thickness and also lat width. Traps also get a workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    You can't even clearly see his mid-section because of his arms.

    "Chub"........ Let's see your pics brutha to showcase what a perfect six pack of abs looks like.

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    Yeah! That pole smoker brings nothing to the table. He never helps out in any forums, makes only comments about peoples physiques(abs only) and the cum dump has never once posted his amazing olympic physique He is more annoying that hoss...well that may be a tie but you get the picture

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    so where are the new pics....the two sets posted look kinda similar

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    Deads are the best!!! You will use every last bit of energy with em! The only thing I don't like about them is that your trunk gets a lot wider and I already have a lot of stubern fat around there that I am trying to get rid of so I am not doing them right now. I may go back to em this winter during a bulker but idk.

    Your lat's will come with pull ups IMO.

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    imho you could use more gh release...do more dead / squat / powercleans / HI Cardio? hgh treatment?

    anything to build core mass / base...it looks like you're juicin out your system pretty good but there is not enough base for it explode off of no matter how much anabolics. good gains otherwise. pz dogg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abstrack
    He is more annoying that hoss...well that may be a tie but you get the picture

    Agreed!!

    BTW nice gains bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by abstrack
    Yeah! That pole smoker brings nothing to the table. He never helps out in any forums, makes only comments about peoples physiques(abs only) and the cum dump has never once posted his amazing olympic physique He is more annoying that hoss...well that may be a tie but you get the picture
    haha...Ive only seen him make comments about people's midsection...somewhat creepy

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    Quote Originally Posted by 50%Natural
    haha...Ive only seen him make comments about people's midsection...somewhat creepy
    no way, he is notorious for making comments to peoples mid section. I swear it is a fetish with him or it or she or whatever

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    Quote Originally Posted by LoadeD_PistoL
    so where are the new pics....the two sets posted look kinda similar
    Post #1 is the before and post #13 is the after. There is actually a 17lbs difference between the two pics. But being 6'3" its hard to tell. Its funny because im bigger than i look, im just lankey. FYI, thats a 20" chain around my neck.

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