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****REVISED PIC...END OF WEEK 3****

Stats
5'10"
188lbs (last time I checked)
BF? (can anybody give me a guess?)

1-10 prop 100mg's ED
3-10 tren 75mg's ED

I just finished my end of week 4. I only gained about 3 pounds, but my strength is really starting to increase dramatically. On Monday I put up 365lbs for 5 reps on the flat bench! :lift: I am also squating 365lbs for 8 reps...looks like I need to work on the squats :unsure:

you look nice and lean bro, but the legs need work. . .i work calfs three times a week and i do realy heavy calf raises and seated donkey raise

Upper body is great bro! Check in the workout section for lots of good ideas and workouts. maybe check out big'ollegs posts.

looking great for your first cycle... get ready to be huge!

BF% id guess around 10-11%

look solid...good build for sure....I think your legs are proportional to your body...Calves are always hard..i have the same problem

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Originally Posted by dalcowbag

you look nice and lean bro, but the legs need work. . .i work calfs three times a week and i do realy heavy calf raises and seated donkey raise

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I've been traing my calfs about 4-5 days a week...is that overdoing it?

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Originally Posted by RageControl

Upper body is great bro! Check in the workout section for lots of good ideas and workouts. maybe check out big'ollegs posts.

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thanks for the reply...i'll def look into that!

come on guys, anyone else have any suggestions? what I need to work on? :lift:

Looking big bro !

you look good bro' I would maybe hit the forearms a little though. but a great base to get started on AS

id bust it on delts and quads, and hit the diet a little so u have some ab serperation, lookin tight no doubt

thanks for all the replies! forearms are one of the areas that I plan on working on in the future, and also delts...I want balls for shoulders :D

nice shorts man!!

EOD isnt too much with calves as long as they arent hurting when you do them...good luck bro

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Originally Posted by Consistency

BF% id guess around 10-11%

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I was just talking with my trainer and guess what? Seems most of the BF #'s running around here are about 1/2 what they should be. I measured 20% which was a total shock, but then he pointed to guys with clearly visible abs and said, that guy there is a 14% BF, I just measured him yesterday. I think I might have spiked up my percentage and loosened my skin some because just being 2 weeks into cycle, and gained about 6 lbs during this week, I might have water bloat giving me a last minute inflation of the BF percentage. He also went on to say getting under 10% is extremely rare and he was not aware of ANYONE in the entire Gold's Gym I am going to that has measured under 10%.

Supposedly with some ab exercises you can grow abs enough to show even at bf percentages in the 10 to 13% range. This guy did not recommend going below 10% actually because just being there will cause a slow but persistent loss of muscle mass. Based on hearing this, it seems the standard the online community is placing is suggesting people are in fact spouting numbers that are about 1/2 what they really are.

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Originally Posted by indica

nice shorts man!!

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Thanks! I was waiting for someone to say something :banana:

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Originally Posted by Ntpadude

I was just talking with my trainer and guess what? Seems most of the BF #'s running around here are about 1/2 what they should be. I measured 20% which was a total shock, but then he pointed to guys with clearly visible abs and said, that guy there is a 14% BF, I just measured him yesterday. I think I might have spiked up my percentage and loosened my skin some because just being 2 weeks into cycle, and gained about 6 lbs during this week, I might have water bloat giving me a last minute inflation of the BF percentage. He also went on to say getting under 10% is extremely rare and he was not aware of ANYONE in the entire Gold's Gym I am going to that has measured under 10%.

Supposedly with some ab exercises you can grow abs enough to show even at bf percentages in the 10 to 13% range. This guy did not recommend going below 10% actually because just being there will cause a slow but persistent loss of muscle mass. Based on hearing this, it seems the standard the online community is placing is suggesting people are in fact spouting numbers that are about 1/2 what they really are.

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WHOA!! so your saying I'm 20% BF...I really better start hitting the cardio :D

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Originally Posted by Latimus

EOD isnt too much with calves as long as they arent hurting when you do them...good luck bro

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Thats the approach I have taken for about the last month, going really heavy, and I'm already seeing a little difference. From my understanding you are able to train abs and calfs ED...is this correct? or is it better to give them a days rest in between?

bump

I think your legs are proportioned well, looking pretty decent.

i think you have got a great body foundation ready for your first cycle. you have some size on you and are also a bit lean as well. good luck

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Originally Posted by Ntpadude

I was just talking with my trainer and guess what? Seems most of the BF #'s running around here are about 1/2 what they should be. I measured 20% which was a total shock, but then he pointed to guys with clearly visible abs and said, that guy there is a 14% BF, I just measured him yesterday. I think I might have spiked up my percentage and loosened my skin some because just being 2 weeks into cycle, and gained about 6 lbs during this week, I might have water bloat giving me a last minute inflation of the BF percentage. He also went on to say getting under 10% is extremely rare and he was not aware of ANYONE in the entire Gold's Gym I am going to that has measured under 10%.

Supposedly with some ab exercises you can grow abs enough to show even at bf percentages in the 10 to 13% range. This guy did not recommend going below 10% actually because just being there will cause a slow but persistent loss of muscle mass. Based on hearing this, it seems the standard the online community is placing is suggesting people are in fact spouting numbers that are about 1/2 what they really are.

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i would say your trainer is a moron or doesnt know how to use his calipers
which isnt that uncommon thats why i pay the money to have my bodyfat
checked under water

bump :banana:

Let me know what you guys think...

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Originally Posted by Ntpadude

I was just talking with my trainer and guess what? Seems most of the BF #'s running around here are about 1/2 what they should be. I measured 20% which was a total shock, but then he pointed to guys with clearly visible abs and said, that guy there is a 14% BF, I just measured him yesterday. I think I might have spiked up my percentage and loosened my skin some because just being 2 weeks into cycle, and gained about 6 lbs during this week, I might have water bloat giving me a last minute inflation of the BF percentage. He also went on to say getting under 10% is extremely rare and he was not aware of ANYONE in the entire Gold's Gym I am going to that has measured under 10%.

Supposedly with some ab exercises you can grow abs enough to show even at bf percentages in the 10 to 13% range. This guy did not recommend going below 10% actually because just being there will cause a slow but persistent loss of muscle mass. Based on hearing this, it seems the standard the online community is placing is suggesting people are in fact spouting numbers that are about 1/2 what they really are.

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That's ridiculous man. Those calipers are only good for tracking relative progress....the %'s they give are worthless. The electrical impulse ones arent even good for tracking progress.

funny, not really but funny. ok funny but not that funny but its funny, ok? i mean its really funny but not that REALLY funny feeling mmmk? :afro:

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You look awesome man. The before and atfer shots are incredible. Keep up the good work!!!!!!!!!!!!