The islamic problem?

[MR-FQ320]

This thread is BS

you know the literal translation of islam is 'peace'.

[lovbyts]

IN ISLAMIC TEACHING, THE END ALWAYS JUSTIFIES THE MEANS: Islamists have no respect for the rules, laws or values of the non-Islamic world, to them only the rules of the Islamic world are legitimate. In their mind, when they destroy the non-Islamic world then the rules will change to Islamic rules, laws and values.

ISLAMISTS CONSIDER TREATIES WITH NON-MUSLIMS AS NON-BINDING. When in non-Muslim countries they will pretend a social behavior as a cover up to their true intentions of domination over the non Muslim world.

TIP: When it comes to Islamists, ALWAYS LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO, NEVER WHAT THEY SAY: Lying, treachery and deceit are the Islamists' tactic of choice in their jihad of conquest of the non-Muslim world. This tactic (AL-TAQIYYA, or religious deception, pretending to be friends of the Non-Muslims in order to strengthen themselves against them) is a commonly practiced by Islamists. DECEPTION IS THE KEY TACTIC EMPLOYED BY ISLAMISTS.

Thanks for saying what most people are afraid to say due to it not being Political correct.

[KAEW44]

Let's be fair guys, you only have to look at the UAE to see that "the muslim world" aren't maintaning a 5 century AD mentality and is one of the most affluent regions of the world, it's what the rest of the muslim world should be striving for.
But you have to wonder, has US and UK presence in the Middle East region simply thrown oil on what is now an inferno? Pretty sure there are more terrorist cells in Iraq today than there ever was under the rule of Saddam Hussien.

UAE is the prime example of fake prosperity and modernism, you are correct to say its not 5th century AD mentality, because its more like 5th century BC mentality!!! Dont be fooled by the high towers and malls man, these architectural marvels are all designed by foreign first world engineers/architects, and built by third world slaves from nepal/india who never get paid and get treated like animals at best, the construction of the UAE is the only modern proof that the pyramids could have been built by slave labour, because the UAE demonstrated that they can use tens of thousands of man labours from poor countries for FREE! and then send them home and say try to sue us from over there. Human rights dont exist at all there, Bars are open in clubs and hotels, yet if you get stopped driving with a slight hint of alcohol (even if you didnt violate a traffic law) you will get lashed like livestock, small drug posession will get you a death sentence making the american equivelent seem like a vacation. prostitution is everywhere in UAE and it is ALL human trafficking/sex slavery young girls kidnapped from war-torn iraq and poor villages in morrocco/ethiopia and former soviet states, all these girls have no rights, no choice, and they dont make a dime they get stacked like sardines in rooms to work themselves as sex slaves for life or until suicide and the royal families of UAE profit off them with zero running costs.

Lets not forget the recent incident when one of the royal family of dubai decided to film his wonderful feat of torturing some poor guy and machine-gunning his legs and then running over him with a car for everyone to see on the net, yet he never saw a minute in court and never got condemned by any first world country, and the victim was never heard of.

UAE people have some material wealth, but do u think its really the wonderful life to have a car and live in a big house? when you have zero human rights, zero right to your citizenship which can be revoked any second if you dare ask for better treatment or critisize government? no right to fair trial, your property can be taken by government at any time for zero compensation if it stands in the way of a new project, religious oppression forced down your throat while u see foreigners being able to enjoy full freedoms if they come from the first world.

The UAE is a prime example of the beautiful golden exterior, that covers the raw sewage which is the oppressive low IQ rule in addition to religious extremist dirty feaces covered foot that steps on the citizen there, add to that warty schlong that takes away all basic human rights and force-pushes them down your throat where they will be swallowed and never seen again.

[zaggahamma]

Wow that was some read

[zabster151]

the only ****ing problem is america sticking its nose were it does not belong.

first off Isrial is a bitch! "and i do not mean the isralie people i mean there government" Who crys to america for help and to attack others.

Iran is not trying to attack anyone first off. it would not benefit them at all economically and they are smart enough to know this and they do. they would much rather do business with every other country as they have been.

also iran has every right to make a nukler bomb just like EVERY OTHER COUNTRIES DOES AND ARE.
america is a greedy bitch and try's to take everything for themselves "Resources" and control everyone ele's recourses/government and we wonder why nothings working.

[Ersh]

Hmmmm.

[spywizard]

the only ****ing problem is america sticking its nose were it does not belong.

first off Isrial is a bitch! "and i do not mean the isralie people i mean there government" Who crys to america for help and to attack others.

Iran is not trying to attack anyone first off. it would not benefit them at all economically and they are smart enough to know this and they do. they would much rather do business with every other country as they have been.

also iran has every right to make a nukler bomb just like EVERY OTHER COUNTRIES DOES AND ARE.
america is a greedy bitch and try's to take everything for themselves "Resources" and control everyone ele's recourses/government and we wonder why nothings working.

really?? the resident of Iran says differently.

http://www.youtube.com/verify_contro...%3D_9zcElqetqk

[Mickthemick]

some are irish..

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter
I am from Belfast Ireland
We were never terrorists only terrorized by the English and forced to defend ourselves

But the Muslim terrorists brought the fight to America who were forced to respond
But u can't stay in another persons country and tell them what to do
It dosent work

[Mickthemick]

some are irish..

One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter
I am from Belfast Ireland
We were never terrorists only terrorized by the English and forced to defend ourselves

But the Muslim terrorists brought the fight to America who were forced to respond
But u can't stay in another persons country and tell them what to do
It dosent work

[wmaousley]

UAE is the prime example of fake prosperity and modernism, you are correct to say its not 5th century AD mentality, because its more like 5th century BC mentality!!! Dont be fooled by the high towers and malls man, these architectural marvels are all designed by foreign first world engineers/architects, and built by third world slaves from nepal/india who never get paid and get treated like animals at best, the construction of the UAE is the only modern proof that the pyramids could have been built by slave labour, because the UAE demonstrated that they can use tens of thousands of man labours from poor countries for FREE! and then send them home and say try to sue us from over there. Human rights dont exist at all there, Bars are open in clubs and hotels, yet if you get stopped driving with a slight hint of alcohol (even if you didnt violate a traffic law) you will get lashed like livestock, small drug posession will get you a death sentence making the american equivelent seem like a vacation. prostitution is everywhere in UAE and it is ALL human trafficking/sex slavery young girls kidnapped from war-torn iraq and poor villages in morrocco/ethiopia and former soviet states, all these girls have no rights, no choice, and they dont make a dime they get stacked like sardines in rooms to work themselves as sex slaves for life or until suicide and the royal families of UAE profit off them with zero running costs.

Lets not forget the recent incident when one of the royal family of dubai decided to film his wonderful feat of torturing some poor guy and machine-gunning his legs and then running over him with a car for everyone to see on the net, yet he never saw a minute in court and never got condemned by any first world country, and the victim was never heard of.

UAE people have some material wealth, but do u think its really the wonderful life to have a car and live in a big house? when you have zero human rights, zero right to your citizenship which can be revoked any second if you dare ask for better treatment or critisize government? no right to fair trial, your property can be taken by government at any time for zero compensation if it stands in the way of a new project, religious oppression forced down your throat while u see foreigners being able to enjoy full freedoms if they come from the first world.

The UAE is a prime example of the beautiful golden exterior, that covers the raw sewage which is the oppressive low IQ rule in addition to religious extremist dirty feaces covered foot that steps on the citizen there, add to that warty schlong that takes away all basic human rights and force-pushes them down your throat where they will be swallowed and never seen again.

I dont know what to say my man. This has to be the worst write up about the UAE I have ever read. Yes their are a lack of Human Rights in the Middle East (lets not attack one country) to include all the GCC countries. The UAE has accomplished more in the field of International Human Rights than all the Middle East combined. The TCN's you speak of are brought from nothing and given a chance to earn something, to them its a dream; to people like me and you it seems like slavery. If the US didnt have something called "minimum wage" most would be working for peanuts like in other countries. So dont take that away from those poor TCN's who escape poverty and are given 3 meals a day, a warm bed to sleep in, money for there family and a chance to be something.

The man from Afghanistan you mentioned about being shot in the legs and run over isnt completely true. He was never shot but was ran over and a US attorney sued the individual who committed these acts in International court and won the Afghani millions of dollars in compensation. Also the said member of the ruling family was jailed for 30 days which is unheard of in teh Middle East.

Your property can be taken in the US for peanuts or bottom dollar if its in the way of a project also. My grandfathers house was bought by the federal government for half of what its worth so a major interstate could be built in Texas.

Yes I agree the UAE is very cosmetic and fake, but from all the Emirati and western people I know there, none have anything bad to say. I know Americans who had nothing and went to the UAE for work and are now millionaires who own there own companies.

My question to you: Have you ever lived or been to the UAE or any other Middle Eastern country?

[zaggahamma]

why was minimum wage in quotes

[zabster151]

that video is used time and time again to push the propaganda about iran. lol. funny how america can kill women and children all day and nobody cares. "Whos the real sicko?"

all that video of him saying death to iran is. iran getting sick of Israel trying to **** with them using US forces.
i think he had every right to say death to israel. israel needs to mind there own ****ing business. also stop trying to get america to attack people for them.

[24tyrone]

This thread is BS

you know the literal translation of islam is 'peace'.

BELIEVE DAT!!!

dont hear jerk offs talking and jews brainwashing everyone or controlling the world etc.

[Simon1972]

BELIEVE DAT!!!

dont hear jerk offs talking and jews brainwashing everyone or controlling the world etc.

agreed, the whole islam thing started when the united nations decided to break palestine up so that a "religion" ( the jews) had a place to live, all be cause hitler decided to irradicate them.... so who suffers?? palestinians- they lose their land and they have been fighting ever since to get their land back ( see gaza strip) . So america backs the jews and the palestinians "muslims" resort to anything they can- bombs etc suicide missions...its progressed to where it is now , because of that.

[wmaousley]

why was minimum wage in quotes

In the english language "Minimum Wage" is considered a literal title which can be in quotation marks. Most use it to express irony, hence the reason you asked the question.

Are you tracking?

[KAEW44]

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My question to you: Have you ever lived or been to the UAE or any other Middle Eastern country?

The answer is yes i have been to and lived in UAE/Qatar/Kuwait/Saudi/Bahrain, so pretty much all the GCC except Oman, Out of all the crap-holes mentioned Bahrain was probably the most free and had the best human rights...for sunni-muslims only, until last year when the peaceful protests were crushed we saw the real face of the bahrain regime and it showed its self as just like the others. As much as i would like to see things from your point of view, you are still looking at the shallow exterior man and you have to be honest about that, if the US and Europe had been morally competent from day one they would have never dealed with GCC countries in any way (economic/trade) unless these countries shaped up and became countries that respect their citizens, but money speaks louder than words so it is the west that allowed these countries to become what they are, we can sit here all day and say GCC citizens have a better standard of life (materialistic only) than most of the world, sure there are many countries that have no wealth + no rights which makes it much worse, but i remain solid to my point which is that the citizens of GCC countries are the most mentally/physically-oppressed in the world because they have to deal with two double-penetration rape by both the dictatorship monarchs and the extremism of religion, which applies to them but not to "westerners" .

There are too many double standards which you would find unfair if you were from there:

Saudi Arabia: European steals - Deport them back to the first world, Citizen steals - Chop Chop

UAE: American raps about ho's and weed - Finance their entire tour and pay them extra for private royal birthdays, Citizen sais one cuss word on his own youtube rap channel - Jail + Lashes + Lifetime Internet use ban

Qatar: Artist dedicated to singing about kush (Kid Cudi) - Fully paid for album recording + music videos produced + publicity (this is happening as i type it) , Qatar Citizen sais weed is made illegal so the local monopoly can raise sales prices on public radio - Citizenship revoked, beat up to near death in prison/ thrown in middle zone between saudi and Qatar to roam the desert with no citizenship/money/anything.

Bahrain: US troop shoots bahraini citizen dead at a bar in summer of 2007 - gets verbal warning, same bahraini citizen who is now dead - family was charged with a fine after the death because their son was "publicly intoxicated" .

Its up to you in the end, these arent "single case" senarios, i am sure if i asked my friends from all these countries to give examples then i would need a thousand page thread for it, all i'm saying is that the GCC is a disgrace to its people because given the wealth and potential, there was never an excuse to take so long to start implementing "reforms" and giving more "rights" , the situation there is just plain sad, and the reason people didnt protest like other arab nations was NOT because citizens of GCC are rich and happy, infact most citizens there are in serious debt and financial misery because of the increased cost of living, the reason they didnt protest was because like bahrain the monarchs have a full out green light from the west to machine-gun down anyone that speaks out.

Also look at the recent UAE scandal with blackwater mercenaries a good 15,000 or so hired by the UAE royals just last year man, you think these guys were hired to "maintain the peace"???? these foreign mercs were hired to gun down like livestock Emirates citizens if they dare and open their mouth and ask for better rights.

All these cases are facts. And you know what i was one of those guys who went and made my money there in those countries yes i admit it, but i'm not that low of a sell-out that i will start praising royal families and saying "god bless them they love their people" just because i made a fast tax-free buck there, the human rights situation in that entire region needs a reality check, and i didnt even go into the child-kidnapping/prostitution rings run by the royal families there lets not even go there.

[zaggahamma]

In the english language "Minimum Wage" is considered a literal title which can be in quotation marks. Most use it to express irony, hence the reason you asked the question.

Are you tracking?

honestly never saw it in quotes bro

[bass]

and another think when the American go out from this muslim countries the problem will go away.

dude, have you ever thought of what got us in there to begin with?! get a clue! and yes islam teachings does say to cut the head of the enemy (non believes).

[zaggahamma]

dude, have you ever thought of what got us in there to begin with?! get a clue! and yes islam teachings does say to cut the head of the enemy (non believes).

nice to see the guns in the war threads

[bass]

LOL! you know i was born in middle east and lived there for about 17 years, and i know whats like to be a minority! thank God i been here 35 years and will never go back if my life depended on it. unless i can get cheap steroids then that a different issue! nahhhhh............... fvck it!

[zaggahamma]

lmfao
known u for a year and just found out you grew up riding camels...wtf
t fn cool bro

[bass]

LOL! believe it or not i think i saw a camel only once in my life when i was there. the funny thing is i seen more camels here in San Diego zoo!

[wmaousley]

The answer is yes i have been to and lived in UAE/Qatar/Kuwait/Saudi/Bahrain, so pretty much all the GCC except Oman, Out of all the crap-holes mentioned Bahrain was probably the most free and had the best human rights...for sunni-muslims only, until last year when the peaceful protests were crushed we saw the real face of the bahrain regime and it showed its self as just like the others. As much as i would like to see things from your point of view, you are still looking at the shallow exterior man and you have to be honest about that, if the US and Europe had been morally competent from day one they would have never dealed with GCC countries in any way (economic/trade) unless these countries shaped up and became countries that respect their citizens, but money speaks louder than words so it is the west that allowed these countries to become what they are, we can sit here all day and say GCC citizens have a better standard of life (materialistic only) than most of the world, sure there are many countries that have no wealth + no rights which makes it much worse, but i remain solid to my point which is that the citizens of GCC countries are the most mentally/physically-oppressed in the world because they have to deal with two double-penetration rape by both the dictatorship monarchs and the extremism of religion, which applies to them but not to "westerners" .

There are too many double standards which you would find unfair if you were from there:

Saudi Arabia: European steals - Deport them back to the first world, Citizen steals - Chop Chop

UAE: American raps about ho's and weed - Finance their entire tour and pay them extra for private royal birthdays, Citizen sais one cuss word on his own youtube rap channel - Jail + Lashes + Lifetime Internet use ban

Qatar: Artist dedicated to singing about kush (Kid Cudi) - Fully paid for album recording + music videos produced + publicity (this is happening as i type it) , Qatar Citizen sais weed is made illegal so the local monopoly can raise sales prices on public radio - Citizenship revoked, beat up to near death in prison/ thrown in middle zone between saudi and Qatar to roam the desert with no citizenship/money/anything.

Bahrain: US troop shoots bahraini citizen dead at a bar in summer of 2007 - gets verbal warning, same bahraini citizen who is now dead - family was charged with a fine after the death because their son was "publicly intoxicated" .

Its up to you in the end, these arent "single case" senarios, i am sure if i asked my friends from all these countries to give examples then i would need a thousand page thread for it, all i'm saying is that the GCC is a disgrace to its people because given the wealth and potential, there was never an excuse to take so long to start implementing "reforms" and giving more "rights" , the situation there is just plain sad, and the reason people didnt protest like other arab nations was NOT because citizens of GCC are rich and happy, infact most citizens there are in serious debt and financial misery because of the increased cost of living, the reason they didnt protest was because like bahrain the monarchs have a full out green light from the west to machine-gun down anyone that speaks out.

Also look at the recent UAE scandal with blackwater mercenaries a good 15,000 or so hired by the UAE royals just last year man, you think these guys were hired to "maintain the peace"???? these foreign mercs were hired to gun down like livestock Emirates citizens if they dare and open their mouth and ask for better rights.

All these cases are facts. And you know what i was one of those guys who went and made my money there in those countries yes i admit it, but i'm not that low of a sell-out that i will start praising royal families and saying "god bless them they love their people" just because i made a fast tax-free buck there, the human rights situation in that entire region needs a reality check, and i didnt even go into the child-kidnapping/prostitution rings run by the royal families there lets not even go there.

I can no longer entertain your posts as your making accusations about GCC Royal Families. I enjoy my time here and do follow the rules of this land as I am a guest.

Just a foot note*****What you mention above are isolated incidents and I couldnt find anything on any of them accept that the UAE contracted a few thousand XE security guards to boost internal defense.

[Philly82]

BELIEVE DAT!!!

dont hear jerk offs talking and jews brainwashing everyone or controlling the world etc.

Yeah blame the Jews for creating the one stable, democratic, free market economy with religious freedom for Christians, Muslims and Jews in the Middle East. I'm not religious, but if I had to pick somewher to live in the back waters that is the middle East it wouldn't be Iran, Syria, Suadi Arabia, afghanistan etc. it would be little old Israel. Nice beaches, nice women, nice scenery.

Do you muslim supporters ever look at how countries like China and Russia treat Muslims? Not very well I can assure you. Now look at countries like Canada and the USA which at least tolerate your bovine, bed sheet wearing, insipid slave women in their country in big numbers and look at what your culture contributes to those countries? Nothing. Yet you persist in thinking there is something predatory and insidious about our military presence in your nations. Guess what we're only trying to give you a little taste of freedom that Imams don't want you to have. Chill out and let it happen...change is inevitable. Learn from history.

Just like it's inevitable that China will surpass the USA economically in the years to come. What do you think the USA is going to do? Bomb China? No. They just have to accept it and move one with their life.

[KAEW44]

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[JD250]

agreed, the whole islam thing started when the united nations decided to break palestine up so that a "religion" ( the jews) had a place to live, all be cause hitler decided to irradicate them.... so who suffers?? palestinians- they lose their land and they have been fighting ever since to get their land back ( see gaza strip) . So america backs the jews and the palestinians "muslims" resort to anything they can- bombs etc suicide missions...its progressed to where it is now , because of that.

This is one of the most fvcked up and inaccurate things I have ever read, did you get one of those fake internet degrees in history? WOW!!

[bass]

This is one of the most fvcked up and inaccurate things I have ever read, did you get one of those fake internet degrees in history? WOW!!

lmao! yup, the world if all fvcked up because of the Jews, that little tiny speck of a country on the face of the planet is screwing with our minds! lets see, 8 million people that includes elderly, women and children is controlling 6 billion others... yup that makes sense!

[Flagg]

Yeah blame the Jews for creating the one stable, democratic, free market economy with religious freedom for Christians, Muslims and Jews in the Middle East. I'm not religious, but if I had to pick somewher to live in the back waters that is the middle East it wouldn't be Iran, Syria, Suadi Arabia, afghanistan etc. it would be little old Israel. Nice beaches, nice women, nice scenery.

Do you muslim supporters ever look at how countries like China and Russia treat Muslims? Not very well I can assure you. Now look at countries like Canada and the USA which at least tolerate your bovine, bed sheet wearing, insipid slave women in their country in big numbers and look at what your culture contributes to those countries? Nothing. Yet you persist in thinking there is something predatory and insidious about our military presence in your nations. Guess what we're only trying to give you a little taste of freedom that Imams don't want you to have. Chill out and let it happen...change is inevitable. Learn from history.

Just like it's inevitable that China will surpass the USA economically in the years to come. What do you think the USA is going to do? Bomb China? No. They just have to accept it and move one with their life.

Russia and China treat their own people appallingly, let alone muslims. Im sure most of you have seen the video of the 3 year old chinese girl that was run over repeatedly in that market area with everyone turning a blind eye as if she was road kill. Or the video of armed guards in riot gear in Russian prisons stripping and beating prisoners with batons.

There is immense cruelty in all corners of the world, and yes, there may appear to be less in the Western world, but I believe that's because Corporate greed/crime rules the roost.

No im not some Western boo boy or a muslim sympathiser, I think most of 21st civilisation is deeply flawed, but I do wonder if the mentality of "some muslims" need to move on and evolve. I would say the same about paranoid America and Israel. And it'd be nice for the UK to grow some balls and stop greasing ourselves up everytime the Americans make a demand of us. The irony though is that America is every much Israels bitch as we (the UK) are Americas bitch.

About the UAE, it's of course obvious that the reason for their wealth is that they sit on a ton of oil, like Norway. However they have access to very little drinking water and require absolutely tons of energy to convert saline water to drinking water.

I do wonder about the state of the world AFTER the oil runs out. No one will care about the muslim threat then.

Yeah, China and India will "replace" the West as Super Powers, but it will only be a short lived victory.

[Philly82]

Russia and China treat their own people appallingly, let alone muslims. Im sure most of you have seen the video of the 3 year old chinese girl that was run over repeatedly in that market area with everyone turning a blind eye as if she was road kill. Or the video of armed guards in riot gear in Russian prisons stripping and beating prisoners with batons.

There is immense cruelty in all corners of the world, and yes, there may appear to be less in the Western world, but I believe that's because Corporate greed/crime rules the roost.

No im not some Western boo boy or a muslim sympathiser, I think most of 21st civilisation is deeply flawed, but I do wonder if the mentality of "some muslims" need to move on and evolve. I would say the same about paranoid America and Israel. And it'd be nice for the UK to grow some balls and stop greasing ourselves up everytime the Americans make a demand of us. The irony though is that America is every much Israels bitch as we (the UK) are Americas bitch.

About the UAE, it's of course obvious that the reason for their wealth is that they sit on a ton of oil, like Norway. However they have access to very little drinking water and require absolutely tons of energy to convert saline water to drinking water.

I do wonder about the state of the world AFTER the oil runs out. No one will care about the muslim threat then.

Yeah, China and India will "replace" the West as Super Powers, but it will only be a short lived victory.

Yeah, you make some valid points there. There are a lot of bad actions from all the nations mentioned in this thread . I mean I am no Jew, I have Death before Dishonor tatooed across my chest with a jailhouse tatoo gun. But I get a little sickened by the poor me arab nations that literally surround israel on all sides and talk shit about the mistreatment of palestinians but wont allow them to immgrate into their own vast countries. Yeah a lot of legitmate sympathy there Where is their arab solidarity...All the seem to do is worry about the great Satan. And I do believe invading Iraq was a mistake. But America only invades when its oil interests are threated. Hence why Syria and UAE will never be invaded as long as the oil keeps flowing. Iran is a legitimate target for an invasion, but why bother. The country already has its own history of revolution and it will happen again.

Just saying the Israeli conspiracy theories were played out even before they started. America backs up Israel for historical reasons and they are a reliable political ally in the middle east and a trading partner. The same goes for the UK backing American military plays. The same reason the nations of the common wealth back each other up. This is politics. What can you do