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    Starting at 50 slowly

    Hi all,

    Joined this community and its amazing how much info - Good quality info.
    I am 50 years old that need some help with getting started.

    The help that I need and would appreciate in advance any input.

    After a long time of neglect (excuse for being lazy) I am starting to train. - Doing Karate about 4 hrs a week (sometimes session are hard sometimes are not).
    but the difficulty that I have is getting back to the weights before I do any cycles. I work full time and have a small business that keeps me busy on the weekend for about 4 hrs.
    full time work sittings on back side and weekend business physical work.

    when I am trying the weights - I get to tired and muscles pain, I really do light weights. bar only, very light weights 8kg, just really trying to get into it as I would love to get a cycle especially as I am getting older.


    I am very good at keeping my diet and food intake - I eat good food, and its just a matter or increasing my intake for strength.
    but again everytime I start on the weights - simple sets of 3 with 10-12 reps (I do it very easily) but the next day I am extremely tired I train every second day in weights and every second day karate ( 1 hour).

    I am not sure what to do and really frustrated and really hoping that someone on this form is able to help. ( I went to some personal trainers but they push really hard ) cant walk the next day or eat . even effecting my Karate which I love (doing it for only 2 years still a beginner).

    can someone help me please with a training program that will fit my age - I dont want to be massive I am trying to aim to longevity as I fight my age .

    I want to thank all of you who take the time to respond this site is amazing.

    TA

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    Hello and welcome to the forum!

    I'm not going to get into training but what I will tell you is that step one at 50 years of age should be full blood work. In the HRT Forum is an example of BW to get. Look in the Finding A Doctor sticky thread at the very top of the forum. Take the list to your GP and request it. Odds are your testosterone is low as with most guys it begins to slowly decrease in their 30's.

    Optimizing hormone levels can make a world of difference in a man. It can help with energy, focus, strength, adding muscle, losing fat and the list goes on. If you doc shrugs your request off argue for it, find another doctor or there are private labs in the states where you can pull your own BW (via labcorp) without a doctor. Quite cost effective too.

    This really is step one. The way you described how you feel fits low T perfectly. Get it done and report back here on this thread please. There are some very knowledgeable guys here willing to help. Also know that most doctors do not know hormones as they're not trained in them in school. So the doc's title really doesn't matter much as long as they understand hormones. There's really only one certification relevant and that would be an A4M Cert. You can google an A4m Doctor Finder on line as well.
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    Keep in mind your gains and recovery time aren't gonna come as quick as they did when you were 18. Also, at our age stretching and warming up is very important. Don't get frustrated if it takes awhile, that's much better than blowing out a shoulder and being out for six months

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    hi Kelkel,

    Thank you for the time you took to reply. Wow hope one day I will be in a position to help someone in this site.
    Yes I have been to the doctor and going to take my blood test. I had an open chat with the doctor and it looks like that the doctor knows what he is doing.
    I am going to start a "folder with my blood test results" to make sure that this is ok. I am just really concern that something bad will happen.
    I have done so much reading and I am really impress with the science and for that reason I am considering this.
    so waiting do do the test very soon.
    I am going to look for the BW and see. will continue to post - Again massive thank you for your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guitarzan View Post
    Keep in mind your gains and recovery time aren't gonna come as quick as they did when you were 18. Also, at our age stretching and warming up is very important. Don't get frustrated if it takes awhile, that's much better than blowing out a shoulder and being out for six months
    hi quitarzan,

    oh yes massive different - life.
    the strongest I ever was was when I was 39-42 - lean about 95kg , natural but I had my food spot on and my Aerobic work strong.
    I was training 6 times a week about 2-3 hours a day and felt wowowowow. the local gym ask me if I was taking anything - I wasnt, but I had my sleep really good really good.
    I am at the moment going to do my BW and starting to work back on my Aerobic - slowly as I am already doing 3 hours karate.

    yes Stretching and warming up is now part of my training routing and I am also doing a flexibility program that goes for about 20min 5 times a week. trying to have the mornings to light Aerobic and flexibility, 3 nights to weights 3 nights to karate and on day on the weekend to heavy work.
    Thank you for the time I really appreciate this

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    When you get your Blood work be sure to post it here please so we can review it for you. Consider it multiple free second opinions!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozraelised View Post
    Hi all,

    Joined this community and its amazing how much info - Good quality info.
    I am 50 years old that need some help with getting started.

    The help that I need and would appreciate in advance any input.

    After a long time of neglect (excuse for being lazy) I am starting to train. - Doing Karate about 4 hrs a week (sometimes session are hard sometimes are not).
    but the difficulty that I have is getting back to the weights before I do any cycles. I work full time and have a small business that keeps me busy on the weekend for about 4 hrs.
    full time work sittings on back side and weekend business physical work.

    when I am trying the weights - I get to tired and muscles pain, I really do light weights. bar only, very light weights 8kg, just really trying to get into it as I would love to get a cycle especially as I am getting older.


    I am very good at keeping my diet and food intake - I eat good food, and its just a matter or increasing my intake for strength.
    but again everytime I start on the weights - simple sets of 3 with 10-12 reps (I do it very easily) but the next day I am extremely tired I train every second day in weights and every second day karate ( 1 hour).

    I am not sure what to do and really frustrated and really hoping that someone on this form is able to help. ( I went to some personal trainers but they push really hard ) cant walk the next day or eat . even effecting my Karate which I love (doing it for only 2 years still a beginner).

    can someone help me please with a training program that will fit my age - I dont want to be massive I am trying to aim to longevity as I fight my age .

    I want to thank all of you who take the time to respond this site is amazing.

    TA
    Welcome! 53 year old man here and I see you have already started getting lab work done. As kelkel posted, it really is the first step towards feeling better, having more energy, and just well, feeling like yourself.
    If your hormones are low, things won't change overnight once you start a proper treatment plan, but it sure does make a difference and is well worth it.
    I hope one day TRT is looked at in a preventive manner for we older guys, instead of an afterthought when we mention we don't feel right.
    Please keep us updated, and again, welcome!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    When you get your Blood work be sure to post it here please so we can review it for you. Consider it multiple free second opinions!
    Hi Kelkel,

    I will , heading away for work and back in two weeks - doing the test and will post it.
    To be honest I cant wait , I really hope that my BW will enable me to start my recovery. I am so active that the constant result is that I am getting sick or over tired and cant fall asleep.

    and as usual -- Big thank you you

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    almostgone,

    I am aware that it will take time to kick in I am just hoping that my BW will is good to start the process. the plan is to start the end of January.
    couldnt agree more regarding the TRT and preventive manner for older guys.

    Once I am ready I will post again as I am reading all the info about cycle , proteins etc .. etc ...

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    Welcome to the older man's club. 49 here. Remember that Youth is wasted on the young. Keep doing what you are doing and try to do a little more each day. In a few months, you will feel better and you will enjoy that pain that workingout gives you. Remember that your brain will tell you to give up on your before your body will. Give a little more with each workout, 1 more kick, 1 more punch, 1 more lift, etc. That extra effort will pay off.

    Keep posting. We are here to help and encourage you.

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    hi ok back from time off.
    doing the BW next week.
    Meanwhile I am sticking with my Karate, light jogging (very light 1-2km slow).
    Also starting to moving my body and doing a flexibility program and very light weights - moving the body again.
    Weights are in the morning early - main body parts only bars and babe weights , in the morning that I have karate doing the the weights and flexibility every morning ( 5 days a week ) this is nice and relaxing.

    Again thank you to all of you .

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    Ozra take a look at the Finding A Doc sticky thread in the HRT Forum and consider using the first set of BW that's in it if possible.
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