08-30-2003, 01:15 PM #1
I have done two screwed up cycles in the past - not majorly just didn't get EVERYTHING before I started. This time it will be different I think I have everthing I need right now.
sustanon -even more
l-dex-two 30 ml bottles 1mg/ml
l-clomid-1 bottle 50mg/ml
l-clen -1 bottle 50mg/ml
left overs from two years ago consisting of:
60 generic tamoxifen
2&1/2 10ml bottles of ultragan 100
4 amps HCG -lepori 2500 (8 actually if you count both parts)
aprox. 50 d-bol
T 3-50-20 tabs
4 lbs eas prescision protien
60 myoplex deluxe (chocolate)
Eas Glutamine powder 1000 gram
liquid gold flax oil
chicken breast, elk, venison, canned tuna, egg whites
long grain brown rice
oatmeal-not instant the old school shit
1% fat cottage cheese
yams and or sweet potatoes
6 meals a day a portion of each with veggies in at least 3 meals
maximum strength oxy pads
maximum strength oxy face wash
zapzyt 10% benzo gel
zapzyt acne wash 2% salicylic
and some face and body scrubbing stuff
32, 6' 180, 12-14% bf.
4 day split-back and bi's,chest and tri's, delts and forearms, legs. 4 on 1 off.
I also throw ab's and calves in (alternate one eod)
Cardio 3xwk run for 20-25 mins hard
I eat clean when I get serious with one cheat day a week, usually after leg day. Usually steak fajita's with chips and salsa
I am thinking of sust eod mixed with deca and then an extra deca shot a week putting me at essentially 750 mgs sus and 400 mgs deca for 12 wks,l-dex .5ml ed (?) with pct clomid starting 2 wks after last shot.
I see great results when I diet strict and train hard and am really looking forward to this cycle.
have I missed anything or is there room for improvement.
Last edited by dutchboy; 08-31-2003 at 08:00 AM.
09-14-2003, 04:35 PM #2
30 views and no replies.
You guys are gonna give me a complex.
09-15-2003, 09:01 AM #3
The only thing that I noticed is that you may want one more bottle of l-dex. I had to up my dosage last cycle, because of a gyno scare, to 1mg per day. Suddenly not near enough l-dex. For my upcoming cycle, I have 3 bottles ready.
Other than that, looks like you have a lot of preparation put into this. Good luck.
09-15-2003, 03:56 PM #4
09-20-2003, 07:48 PM #5Retired IRON CHEF Mod
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I'm not trying to be sarcastic and I looked over everything closely but you seem to have everything that you need.
The foods that you picked for your diet are text book foods and as long as you are taking in the correct caloric intake you should be fine.
Your workout routine seems ok as well. It is not often that I see workout routines that incorporate all the secondary muscle groups but yours hits the nail on the head. I do think that you should consider working your abs everyday though. This is the only area of muscles that you are shooting for density where as other muscle groups you are looking for much more increases in muscle gains. They can handle it and seeing as how this is useually is a problem area for most men working them everyday it is ok in my opion.
I noticed that you are using nizoral shampoo. How is it working for you? I have heard of this however I seemed to have better results with Rogaine while on cycle. I do not have that much af a hair loss problem however it does get very thin in the back while I am cycling.
Anyway, good luck
Last edited by Tobey; 09-21-2003 at 04:52 AM.
09-21-2003, 04:10 AM #6Originally Posted by Tobey
09-21-2003, 04:16 AM #7
Originally I had some concerns about the l-dex dosage......does it seem right? I also ordered some leterzole (sp). I would really like to keep the water retention to a minimum, and then there is the other....obvious couple of thingies I don't want any part of... Thanks for the advice Tobey, it is always appreciated. Especially from a member of your "stature". I hate doing abs but will make it a point to increase the frequency.
09-21-2003, 04:50 AM #8Retired IRON CHEF Mod
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When I do use Rogain, I would put it on first thing in the morning whe I got out of the shower. You can use Equate as well. It is a little cheaper than Rogain ( Only $19.99 a bottle where as Rogain is around $40.oo a bottle) I do notthink it is as strong as Rogain however you shouyld be able to find it in any Wal Mart. It is basically the same thing just a cheap brand.
09-22-2003, 07:50 AM #9Originally Posted by dutchboy
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