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    Clomid sex drive

    ok this is the deal i finished my
    week 1-10 deca 300mg
    Week 1-12 Test E 500
    week 1-5 D-bol 30-40mg

    i waited 2 weeks after i finished the test to start PCT. i took 300mg 20mg nolva the 1st day and now im taking 100mg 20mg nolva ed i just finishes 1 week of the clomids and my sex drive is weak.... i can still get it up if i put a porn and and relax but it takes longer to get my wang at full attention. Also im not popping morning wood like i did before I was on. I have been taking trib at high dose and it helps a lil... anyone ever get this? could it just be that the clomid is ****ing with my head ? Help me out

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    oh and i know u guys are going do say viagra lavitra bla bla bla but i just want my **** back to norm not any help fom the little blue guys.

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    what you are experiencing is an increase in Sex Hormone Binding Globulin. If you read Pheedno's PCT he suggest's a tri method of PCT using an AI like arimidex to help suppress SHBG to an extent and help return levels back to base line at a quicker pace.

    If not you may experience for several weeks but towards the end of clomid administration I dont see this persisting. Run clomid atleast 30 days at 100mg along side 20mg of nolvadex . Please come back and let us know how it works for you and if we can help anymore.

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    would letro at .25mg be a good sub for the armidex ?

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    dont see a problem with it
    Quote Originally Posted by big daddy k de
    would letro at .25mg be a good sub for the armidex ?

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    I had the same problem .I used proviron 50mg/d instead of arimidex .
    I continued proviron for 1 week after the clomid therapy and now i feel great .
    Try it

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    my bones back but still not as random and reguler ...i tryed a lavitra for fun and wow lol but still not at the same level i was

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    Quote Originally Posted by big daddy k de
    would letro at .25mg be a good sub for the armidex ?
    from what others have said, letro has killed there libido, l dex didnt effect mine at all .25 mgs ed,i have never ran letro

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    Yeah - any more views on letro during PCT, as thats all i've got & dont wanna have to get ldex (more $)

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    i got the same thing off deca ! it just takes some time just stay on the clomid and that helpt me. I had trubbles keeping it hard when i was on deca. just give it some time.

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    A great post cycle regime seems to be:
    1mg arimidex daily
    .5 cabergoline once weekly
    500iu HCG daily
    50-100mg clomid
    Clen


    You seem to have done a heavy cycle, and just like you take various anabolic compounds, you should find that syngergy with the PCT drugs.

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    SWOLE!!! You are the MAN! Nice regiment! I will be trying that, and bookmarking this page for the recipe!

    thanks

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    It seems to work pretty well, its also the regime im using currently..
    Use the 1mg arimidex , 500iu hcg , and clomid (varies per person) for week 1-5
    then use the clen (amount varies per person) and cabergoline .5 once weekly for the remaining time your off juice.
    If your still not feeling well after 6-8 weeks , use some proviron until your next cycle. The proviron really keeps you Sane! you might feel fat and weak, but you can still screw!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swole33
    A great post cycle regime seems to be:
    1mg arimidex daily
    .5 cabergoline once weekly
    500iu HCG daily
    50-100mg clomid
    Clen


    You seem to have done a heavy cycle, and just like you take various anabolic compounds, you should find that syngergy with the PCT drugs.

    Nonononono, take hcg while on cycle, it can desensitize your gonads or somthing. AKA, suppressive when trying to restore natty test.

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    Wait a minute, its REALLY bad for you to take HCG while ON your AAS cycle??? First I've heard of it... why?

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    No he said only take while on gear. And proviron should make you hard and strong not fat and weak, but will also prevent you from recovering faster. Remember swole33 said seems to be... that should give you an idea of his knowledge.

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    i said it seems to be because my nads are back to normal , and feel good, and my lifts are getting better. Only blood work will tell! What i was saying about proviron is to keep it for a weapon against lack of libido. The worst part of PCT cycle is lack of sex drive.

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    Cool cool, what are the odds of my nuts being shut down permanently? 1/20 ? 1/200 ? Asking because a guy wrote me a horror story of three consecutive (and well thought out) attempts at PCT - still unsuccessful tho. HOLY ****! It would suck to have to inject for the rest of your life... just to be normal. Miss a day and get all catabolic and ****. (of course, use a slow ester, yada yada, but it would suck.) So, the concensus is what again?

    Use HCG during cycle and during PCT?
    Use HCG during cycle and NOT during PCT?
    Use HCG during pct but not during cycle?

    Sorry, I like to be really clear on things, not something I want to get wrong... And anyway, not like one opinion will steer my actions entirely, but a few good opinions will help me make my own. Thanks, also, I just read what I think to be quite possibly some of the most useful information I have found (unique and seemingly accurate) on usage, rampup times relative to half life, PCT, and myths. Good ****, maybe I'll post it here... but don't want to hijack this guys thread. :-) I'm at work so just check my posts later if interested, TECHNICALLY, I'm working. LOL

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    Tru- studys show that HCG is benefitical on AAS when the cycles are long. IE testosterone replacement . Actually regime doctors use would be 500iu HCG daily, and 200-400mg test weekly depending on your doctor.

    THe longer your on a cycle, the longer the recovery takes. The more cycles you do, and the less brakes you take, will end up supressing you for quite awhile in the long run. if you stopped cold turkey, But most of us here seem to be on route of doing cycles for the rest of our lives.

    500iu daily of HCG is clinically proven to raise Test levels post cycle. Also a study was published a year ago stating that patients were given 5000iu, twice weekly of HCG for 6 weeks and had increased test levels, muscle size, but no strength increase?

    So if your question is wheather or not to Use HCG post cycle, i would say your a fool not too. Everyone disagrees on the dosage.

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    If you do not mind me asking swole33, have you used hcg post cylce? I mean do you have experience running it post cycle and not doing it as to compare rate of recovery.

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    Oh, dude, I'm 100% to use it post cycle. HOWEVER, my question is more to use it DURING the cycle. Which I'm about 100% to start doing also. In fact, as soon as I find slin pins, I'm doing it. I might also just throw it in with my mix today.

    Thanks, good info as always.

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    I am using the PCT regime that i stated above currently. Also i have been using HCG post cycles for the past few years and its the greatest PCT tool. I have not lost any weight, but i dont use a huge amount of drugs. Honestly i am not going to risk NOT using HCG to test my proticol for the rates of recovery. Its based on science and blood work and it has worked well for me and many others. Im not going to risk loosing my gains, and loosing my sex drive by just trying a NOV PCT. I really feel that the more drugs you do on cycle, the more you have to do PC to re-create your bodys homeostasis. Why put your body through anymore trauma!!!

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    Swole, not to hijack, but what was your last cycle? I'm curious to see your thoughts on a "light" cycle. LOL.

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    ive heard people running like 500iu of hcg during cycles.. once every 4th or 5th day... thats it... u dont wanna run it hardcore i dont believe.. not sure the reasoning behind this but i have done alot of research on things and i know i've seen alot of running HCG every 4th or 5th day, i believe lion even spoke to me recently on this issue.


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    Well, I have to say, the concept of running it DURING sure does seem to be in tact; I am doing 250iu EOD and my nuts are swinging. Before I felt a slight ache and tightness, but now they are normal. To me, the logic that best describes what I'm seeing is that the HCG is interfering with the atrophy that would otherwise elongate the process of restoring natural testosterone production. Anyway, like always, it's just speculative and individual experiences (I'm not doing this on a group with a control) ... which relegate them to being anecdotal - but try it. Secondly, I have heard (and would care NOT to check) that taking over 500iu in a day does little more than taking the 500iu for the POSITIVE affects (such as doses of 1000 - 5000iu), however, it may also be causing a desensitization to the HCG in that dose. The concern being that the body would down regulate response to it, thus making it ineffective at restoring testicle size which is directly proportionate to their ability to produce testosterone. That theory COULD be wrong, but it's currently the one I am testing.

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    my last cycle was 75 tren m/w/f combined with 50 winny m/w/f for 5 weeks, then i switched to 200mg test weekly, 25mg anavar daily, and 30 mg turnabol daily for the last 5. That was 6 mo's ago. Ive done an IGF cycle since then, its good ****.

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