Another Freaking HCG Question....

**j.r.w.** · 05-19-2005, 04:11 PM

Could some of you tell me about your positive experiences on this stuff? I'm interested on first hand experiences taking this stuff throughout a cycle. What were your dosages, how often, etc... Would ya'll recommend taking HCG throughout your cycle or just waiting til the end?

Thanx bros,
jrw

**spud** · 05-19-2005, 04:43 PM

I love it and wouldn't consider running a cycle without it. I've used it for mid cycle for testicle atrophy and also I want it at the end before PCT starts.

I've yet to see a consensus regarding dosage. I do around 750mg 2X a week for a few weeks - depending on how shut down I am - at mid cycle. Perhaps again 2/3 - 3/4 of the way through if it's a long hard run. At the end of a cycle, I might up that dosage a bit so my nuts are full sized for when PCT starts. I don't have a firm idea what's right for me yet - but I learn more about my body with every cycle!

I'm a bit cautious about using it through the whole cycle. Apparently (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) desensitizing the Leydig cells is a risk with too much HCG and that could lead to permanent problems. Since no one knows where that starts, I err on the conservative side.
So I only use as needed for my boys!

hope this helps,
spud

**j.r.w.** · 05-19-2005, 09:00 PM

Thanx a lot for the info.

jrw

**j.r.w.** · 05-19-2005, 09:04 PM

Another thing I was wondering is this: I have heard that you should definately use nolvadex while using HCG . How important is this and would it be okay to use the nolvadex while on HGH?- I've heard that nolvadex hinders HGH gains. Can I get some feedback please?

**mark956101957** · 05-19-2005, 09:10 PM

500 ius two days in a row every week during cycle. The results for me is my nuts stay at a semi decent size. I have gone without using hcg and it scared the hell out of me when my boys shrunk up so small I thought they would shrivel away while on tren like I am now.

**spud** · 05-20-2005, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by j.r.w.

Another thing I was wondering is this: I have heard that you should definately use nolvadex while using HCG. How important is this and would it be okay to use the nolvadex while on HGH?- I've heard that nolvadex hinders HGH gains. Can I get some feedback please?

I know that nolva drops your natural igf levels so I try to take the minimum. I like a little because it's good for ones lipid values.
HCG will raise your test levels and therefore pose a risk of gyno. I take l-dex and/or proviron and keeps the estrogen in check.

Mark's protocol is a good safe one. I've seen some advice go as much as 5000IU/week which scares me. IMHO, HCG is one of those where you want to use just enough to get the job done. Also it's my understanding HCG causes a raise in test levels a few hours after injecting, and another like 5 days later.

There's more info here:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=165465

spud