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11-22-2005, 06:42 PM
Im C murda

Check It Son

Alrighty, im gonna be starting my first cycle soon and im pumped for it. its a very VERY basic beginne cycle consisting of 500mg test E per week, and 30 mg D bol per day for the first 4 weeks. I will be doing Nolva 20 mg everyday while on cycle. Is the nolva enough to keep away gyno or should i stack it with proviron? As for PCT i plan on taking anti estragins, HCG Clomid and Clenbuterol. What are reasonable doses for the PCT elements? Any help is appreciated.
11-22-2005, 07:38 PM
inspector_injector

1,250 I.U -2,500 I.U. per shot of HCG. Take 20mg of nolva with the hcg.

So your pct should look like this....

Weeks 1-9 400mg test enanthate
Weeks 1-4 25mg dbol daily
Weeks 1-15 20mg nolvadex daily
Week 6 2,500 I.U. on Monday and 1,250 I.U. on Thursday
Week 10-12 300mg of primo or you can take 50mg of test propionate every other day
Week 12 Same as week six
Week 12-15 40mg of nolvadex daily

The reason for all this is because the enanthate stays active for 3-4 weeks and if your not taking anything in the mean time you will loose a lot of mass. So take propionate at the end since it's a short ester and then commence your pct once the enanthate has left your system.
11-22-2005, 07:42 PM
Dave321

Quote:

Originally Posted by inspector_injector

1,250 I.U -2,500 I.U. per shot of HCG. Take 20mg of nolva with the hcg.

So your pct should look like this....

Weeks 1-9 400mg test enanthate
Weeks 1-4 25mg dbol daily
Weeks 1-15 20mg nolvadex daily
Week 6 2,500 I.U. on Monday and 1,250 I.U. on Thursday
Week 10-12 300mg of primo or you can take 50mg of test propionate every other day
Week 12 Same as week six
Week 12-15 40mg of nolvadex daily

The reason for all this is because the enanthate stays active for 3-4 weeks and if your not taking anything in the mean time you will loose a lot of mass. So take propionate at the end since it's a short ester and then commence your pct once the enanthate has left your system.

:scratch: not for this early in the game brotha imo....

pct should be simple, and prop shots may be too much for a beginner

pct: 14 days after last test e shot
clomid
day 1 - 300mg
day 2-14 100mg/day
day 15-21 50mg/day
clen during (choice) to maintain strength and anti catabolic effect
11-22-2005, 07:45 PM
305GUY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Im C murda

Alrighty, im gonna be starting my first cycle soon and im pumped for it. its a very VERY basic beginne cycle consisting of 500mg test E per week, and 30 mg D bol per day for the first 4 weeks. I will be doing Nolva 20 mg everyday while on cycle. Is the nolva enough to keep away gyno or should i stack it with proviron? As for PCT i plan on taking anti estragins, HCG Clomid and Clenbuterol. What are reasonable doses for the PCT elements? Any help is appreciated.

Yo Yo Check it son, how long are you running that cycle for? I would make it 10mg nolva ed while on , and add 1.25 letro EOD to help keep you dry. HCG is most likely not neccessary.
11-22-2005, 07:46 PM
305GUY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Sane

:scratch: not for this early in the game brotha imo....

pct should be simple, and prop shots may be too much for a beginner

pct: 14 days after last test e shot
clomid
day 1 - 300mg
day 2-14 100mg/day
day 15-21 50mg/day
clen during (choice) to maintain strength and anti catabolic effect

I agree except i dont like the 300mg day 1. but thats jmo

Edit: plus at nolva 20mg to that protocol
11-22-2005, 07:48 PM
Dave321

Quote:

Originally Posted by 305GUY

I agree except i dont like the 300mg day 1. but thats jmo

some don't and I can't argue that... 100mg could be implemented at the start as well. I have always ran 300mg, but I'm just silly like that! :wg:
11-22-2005, 07:49 PM
305GUY

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin Sane

some don't and I can't argue that... 100mg could be implemented at the start as well. I have always ran 300mg, but I'm just silly like that! :wg:

Yeah your a silly rabbit. :D
11-22-2005, 07:50 PM
Dave321

Quote:

Originally Posted by 305GUY

Yeah your a silly rabbit. :D

it's YOU'RE!!! :icon_piss

:lol: :lol: