12-18-2005, 11:21 AM #1
Clomid & HCG The way my Dr. prescribed Maybe BS
I get most of my supplements from my doctor just discontinuing 16 week cycle. Week 1-4 Dbol 1-16 deca and cypionate . He advised me to wait 14 days from last shot and take a 100mg's of Clomid for 10 days and take 1000 IU' s HCG for 10 days with the clomid. Then wait a couple of weeks and have all my blood work done.Pending results a few weeks later they will prescribe me what I want to get back started.
12-18-2005, 01:58 PM #2
12-18-2005, 02:24 PM #3Originally Posted by Triposinator
12-18-2005, 08:15 PM #4
Do you mean 15 days dince your last shot of Test?
Typically Hcg is used during or at the tail end, or after cycle but before clomid. Hcg brings back testicular form (size) and function (ability to produce Test), then you move to clomid to light the spark on the testes that are (more) capable of producing.
I can't really make a recommendation at this juncture (15 days after last stick), but the protocol above is what I would have done. I don't really commit to memory all of the logic that has been presented for the hcg then clomid sequence. I read it time after time, from quality experts and that is how I'm doing it right now.
What is the worst that could happen? Best case:slightly longer PCT then you would have needed. Worst case: well its your body after all.
Originally Posted by JUICING
12-18-2005, 09:37 PM #5
I know I have read time and time again but you would think your DR. would know bestOriginally Posted by Triposinator
12-19-2005, 12:38 PM #6
I know what you mean. I think a specialist in this area would never have suggested the two combined.
Hopefully a VET will come by and have some advice for you at this (late) juncture.
Originally Posted by JUICING
12-19-2005, 05:26 PM #7Originally Posted by JUICING
12-19-2005, 08:32 PM #8Originally Posted by SoulCard
12-19-2005, 08:47 PM #9
There could be a reason why your doctor prescribed you to run it that way...... this person is a HRT specialist. Maybe you should ask the doc why he has it set this way; then tell the doc you were doing some reading and you have seen other ways to run PCT as well.
NOw I'm assuming the doctor didn't prescribe the d-bol and deca ...... Does the doctor know you ran the other compounds if they were not prescribed?
If this was a cycle that was ran you would wait 3 weeks after the last injection of deca and cyp and run PCT like this for no less then 30 days more is needed:
Day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg Arimadex
It's too late for HCG at this point. Then blood work can be ran a few weeks to a month after PCT has been completed.
12-19-2005, 09:22 PM #10Originally Posted by TheMudMan
12-20-2005, 01:06 PM #11Originally Posted by JUICING
12-20-2005, 09:54 PM #12Originally Posted by TheMudMan
Last edited by JUICING; 12-20-2005 at 10:02 PM.
12-21-2005, 12:08 AM #13Originally Posted by TheMudMan
12-21-2005, 12:32 AM #14
If you have HCG it would be wiser to run it periodically during your cycle but if you have to use it at the end use it before clomid...and your body will respond better to the clomid because there is activity in your balls rather than the dormant dust bunnies they are during your cycle
12-21-2005, 10:28 AM #15Originally Posted by Ironmanjay
Yes, the information in Anabolic 2005 is incorrect........ cyp has an 18 day half-life and deca a 3 week...... not 14 as the poster stated that was written in the book.
Is that enough explaination for you?
12-21-2005, 04:49 PM #16Associate Member
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My HRT told me the same thing.....
Take 1,000 units every other day during the middle of the program.
For the end of the program, wait 1 week after your last test injection and take the same amount, "25" on the insulin syringe EVERY DAY for 10 days. Start the Clomiphene Citrate the same day as the HCG and start by taking 2 per day for 2 weeks, then take 1 per day till gone.
I would just follow what they have prescribed. I would not think they would steer you in the wrong direction. I had the same question and with further research I have decided to listen to a doctor opposed to some persons opinion from a forum.
12-21-2005, 10:10 PM #17Originally Posted by Jack Rabbit Slim
12-21-2005, 10:17 PM #18Originally Posted by TheMudMan
12-21-2005, 10:39 PM #19
Ask the doctor if he has ever done a cycle and if he personally did his HRT protocol, I doubt it. We are just telling you what works, take the HCG before the clomid, you still have time.
That book has false info. Needs some fixin.
12-22-2005, 01:08 PM #20Originally Posted by JUICING
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