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    PCT for SUPERDROL

    Hey was wondering what PCT would be needed with SUPERDROL . More of an experiment im taking SUPERDROL to see what the big deal is

    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCutler
    Hey was wondering what PCT would be needed with SUPERDROL . More of an experiment im taking SUPERDROL to see what the big deal is

    thanks
    100mg Clomid and 20mg Nolva for 4 weeks. Liver protection and cardiovascular protection can be runned through PCT as well.

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    If you're looking for over-the-counter supplements...

    Retain, PCT, Perfect Cycle, and cardiovascular protection supps for 4 weeks.

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    If you are really concerned about cardiovascular health, blood pressure supps can be taken as well.

    If you want more details on the liver and cardio supps, just let me know. Good luck with your cycle!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    100mg Clomid and 20mg Nolva for 4 weeks. Liver protection and cardiovascular protection can be runned through PCT as well.
    Both Clomind and Nolva for 4 weeks? I thought Nolva alone would be sufficient?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Italia_NYC
    Both Clomind and Nolva for 4 weeks? I thought Nolva alone would be sufficient?
    Nolva alone is sufficient if you run it at 60mg ED for 4 weeks.

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    Ahh, I see. Good info.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Italia_NYC
    Ahh, I see. Good info.
    Glad I could help. Was a little nervous when I saw Italia_NYC . How you doin?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    Glad I could help. Was a little nervous when I saw Italia_NYC . How you doin?
    LOL...

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    Hey do you work out when ur on PCT? or do you rest up while keeping calories high? i'm thinkin about doing my first cycle now, and I'm just curious...thanks

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    And hey Papi, when you say 100mg Clomis and 20 mg Nolva, is that weekly or daily? i noticed the 60 mg ED of nolva...i take it ED means everyday? Sorry guess im confused...

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    Quote Originally Posted by novastepp
    And hey Papi, when you say 100mg Clomis and 20 mg Nolva, is that weekly or daily? i noticed the 60 mg ED of nolva...i take it ED means everyday? Sorry guess im confused...
    Daily or ED (Every Day). 60mg ED means 60mg Every Day.

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    Hey papi thanks fo the replys thay have been real helpfull . Just a couple of questons

    cardiovascular health protection - is this a must and is it dangerous not to have it ? . If so what do u recomend to have ? .

    Liver protection - Milk Thistle will this do the tick ? .

    Also have u tried superdrol before ? if so what gains did u get and what PCT did u do and what one u recomend just the nolva or the nolva and clomid combo ?

    thanks again

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCutler
    Hey papi thanks fo the replys thay have been real helpfull . Just a couple of questons

    cardiovascular health protection - is this a must and is it dangerous not to have it ? . If so what do u recomend to have ? .

    Liver protection - Milk Thistle will this do the tick ? .

    Also have u tried superdrol before ? if so what gains did u get and what PCT did u do and what one u recomend just the nolva or the nolva and clomid combo ?

    thanks again
    With Superdrol, cardiovascular health protection is a must. Superdrol is very harsh on your cholesterol (I believe reducing good cholesterol - HDL's).

    Here is some excellent supplements recommended by Supplement Guru Bryan2:

    Regarding cholesterol health (The list will be in order of effectiveness)

    At the top of the list is niacin

    The best form is sustained release
    Next come the regular form (but be aware these two can and will cause the skin to become a flushed red for a few minutes after you take it) nothing wrong it’s just a slight side effect

    There is however a version that eliminates this referred to as flush free niacin

    A general dose for cholesterol health is around 1000-1500mgs daily but if using the flush free version a dose of 2000-3000 mgs is preferred as this version is slightly weaker acting.

    EFAs
    Are up towards the top of the list as well as they work very efficiently at cholesterol maintenance. These are referred to the Omegas 3,6,9 they are found in flax and fish oils which are most commonly used for bodybuilding purposes.

    Red yeast riceDoseage:1200mg-2400mg Ed
    Red yeast rice is basically fermented rice that shares the same active ingredients as the main stream prescription cholesterol lowering statins that are on the market. It is known to have a decent effect on cholesterol maintenance. However it is only beneficial to use for short periods of time such as up to 3-4 weeks before the cycle and continued throughout PCT. It should also be noted that this particular product is known to lower concentrations of COQ10 in the heart and liver so either a pre made supplement including this or additional supplementation of COQ10 at 300mg per day will be needed.

    Sesathin

    Sesathin is an excellent product that has many aspects that are beneficial to the bodybuilding community; one of these happens to be beneficial specifically for cholesterol maintenance and repair.

    A short read up can be found at wwwdotavantlabsdotcom/main.php(dot to be replaced with a . to access)

    Allicin:
    An extract found in Garlic which is shown to lower blood pressure and lipid levels. It also has established reports of its ability to fight cancer. Purer forms of the extract are shown to be the best.

    Policosanol:
    Doseage: 10 -20 mg/day
    Policosanol is made up of a blend of fatty alcohols known to be beneficial towards cholesterol maintenance. This specific supplement sometimes takes up to 3 months before full benefits start to show themselves and stacks remarkably well with EFAs producing a synergetic effect.

    Fenugreek:
    Fenugreek is known to help tremendously during PCT for HPTA recovery but also shows some slight benefits towards lipid health.

    These are the most effective supplements currently available to us bodybuilders that benefit our goals while choosing to supplement with hormonal products.

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    From Bryan2 on liver supplementation:

    There is also the important factor of liver health when using steroids and more specifically oral steroids .

    Milk thistle
    Doseage: 1000mg Ed
    Milk thistle is the most important supplement when it comes to liver health is actually detoxifies the liver and encourages new growth of liver cells to be made.

    N.A.C
    Doseage: 600mg-1200mg Ed
    This amino acid is a precursor to glutathione which is an aminoacid like compound that is specifically known to prevent free radicals and help detoxify the liver it works synergistically with milk thistle.

    Alpha lipoic acid
    Doseage: 300-500mg Ed
    It is a great all around antioxidant that helps other protective vitamins re circulate the body.

    Liv 52
    Is a blend of other ingredients used to treat liver troubles for centuries and while it does work IMO not to the potential of the other three ingredients listed.

    If your thinking about using hormonal products why not spend a little extra money and do it the smart way!!! Minimize every negative side effect that you can because lets face it guys is a few extra pounds of muscle really worth risking your health over it???

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    Bryan2 also had this to say about blood pressure:

    Another negative side effect that usually befalls the common steroid user is elevated blood pressure and this can be a very serious side effect!!!

    However ther are as well certain suppliments that can help

    First thing that comes to mind is

    Hawthorne Berry
    Doseage 1500mg-2000mg ed

    This does a decent job at lowering blood pressure

    Celery Seed extract
    A powerful anti-oxidant, shown to not only lower blood pressure, but may have cancer fighting properties as well. Also there is evidence to show its ability in aiding the liver.

    This can be used year round, or saved for an extra punch to control Blood Pressure during cycle.

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    Thanks for the replys been real helpfull . The EFA's can these be used as solely the chloesterol cardiovalascular protection ?

    Also for the PCT is PCT by Anabolic Xtreme any good . Or u recomend clomid and Nolva ?

    thanks again i appreciate it .

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    i also want to kwno what a over the counter pct would be

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayCutler
    Thanks for the replys been real helpfull . The EFA's can these be used as solely the chloesterol cardiovalascular protection ?

    Also for the PCT is PCT by Anabolic Xtreme any good . Or u recomend clomid and Nolva ?

    thanks again i appreciate it .
    Bryan2 said that niacin is the most important cholesterol protector that you can take. Niacin and EFA's top the list.

    I'm going to experiment with PCT and Retain (by Anabolic Xtreme) to see how effective they are for PCT. I cannot give my opinion yet because I cannot speak from experience on this one.

    I would stay with nolva and clomid because research chemicals will be stronger than anything you can buy over-the-counter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff87
    i also want to kwno what a over the counter pct would be
    Anabolic Xtreme's Retain, PCT, Perfect Cycle, and cardiovascular protection supplements. This is for a Phera Plex-only cycle.

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    Jay Cutler takes superdrol?!?! I knew he had to be on somethin!!!!!

    Who woulda thought it was SD....maybe that what was in his fridge in the picture from the recent thread!!

    At least we all know now





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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    Anabolic Xtreme's Retain, PCT, Perfect Cycle, and cardiovascular protection supplements. This is for a Phera Plex-only cycle.
    not superdrol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeff87
    not superdrol?
    No, you could do the same for superdrol. Just pay closer attention to cardiovascular support supplements because superdrol can be harder on your cholesterol.

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    Wasn't there a gigantic post for this??

    Can't find ATM

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