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    Exclamation PCT for TBol cycle? Nolva or Clomid?

    What's the proper pct for an 8-week tbol only cycle at 50 mg everyday? Do you recommend nolva or clomid, and what is the proper amount to be taken for either? Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by DwinsChamps
    What's the proper pct for an 8-week tbol only cycle at 50 mg everyday? Do you recommend nolva or clomid, and what is the proper amount to be taken for either? Thanks
    4 weeks of Clomid at 100mg ED and Nolva at 20mg ED. You can go past 4 weeks if you feel your natural test levels haven't fully recovered.

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    You only need nolva at 20mg ED,no need for clomid as Tbol is light.

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    no clomid??? I feel kinda shut down after 5 weeks right now. Are you positive??

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    First of all, why are you doing T-Bol for eight weeks? Did you actually see any gains after week 5? I haven't read of this occuring yet. I'm trying to figure out how many weeks to keep going 4, 5, or 6.

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    exactly! I'm on end of week five right now and NO MORE GAINS. Great compound though for short cycles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tallyjuice
    no clomid??? I feel kinda shut down after 5 weeks right now. Are you positive??
    I wouldn't. If you doubt me, ask Mudman or Bryan2. A lot of members underestimate the importance of proper PCT. Better safe than sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    You only need nolva at 20mg ED,no need for clomid as Tbol is light.

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    Yes. Nolvadex in the 20-40mg/dy range. Clomid isnt necessary and some say counter-productive (weak estrogenic actions at the pituitary).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhawk21
    First of all, why are you doing T-Bol for eight weeks? Did you actually see any gains after week 5? I haven't read of this occuring yet. I'm trying to figure out how many weeks to keep going 4, 5, or 6.

    Good question. To be honest, I made this post before I had learned that many OT users have had little or no gains past 5 weeks. Personally, I haven't cycled OT, so I'm in the dark as to when gains will subside. Still, though, there are as many or more arguments saying OT is the shit/they'd run at 8+ weeks in their next cycle.
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    What kind of results did you get off the OTbol only cycle??
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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    You only need nolva at 20mg ED,no need for clomid as Tbol is light.

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    Hi!
    Are you really sure about that? because i really don't want to take clomid (eyes/mood sides)
    But if you are, i'm really glad to read that!

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    just finished a tbol only cycle (14 days at 50mg, then 17 days at 100mg) and my guy said I didn't need a pct....reading this and based on how I feel right now I disagree, I think I should have gotten a pct, my question is....how late after the cycle is it still safe/effective to begin a nolvadex pct??? I took my last dose on Thursday and it is now the following Tuesday....is it too late to start pct and I'm ****ed or is there still time for me

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