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    PCT for Tren Prop Mast

    The cycle will look like this.

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    1-12 Test Prop
    1-10 Tren A
    1-10 Mast Prop

    PCT

    I was planning on running HCG @ 500IU twice a week. But when should I cease the HCG use? And do I start PCT normally? I was planning on using Nolva, and then I couldn't decide on whether to use clomid or aromasin . Need some help, thanks.

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    I was wondering the same thing. I am doing a similiar cycle:

    1-10 Prop
    1-8 Tren
    3-10 Winnie

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    wk1: hcg 500iu/ED + nolva 40mg/ED
    wk2: nolva 40mg/ED
    wk3: nolva 30mg/ED
    wk4: nolva 20mg/ ED

    thats how I would do it.
    maybe drop the hcg to 250iu and hit it 10 days instead of 1 week. or just do 500iu for 10 days.

    *Edit* oh, I missunderstud the question.
    stop the hcg within a week after cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markosterone
    wk1: hcg 500iu/ED + nolva 40mg/ED
    wk2: nolva 40mg/ED
    wk3: nolva 30mg/ED
    wk4: nolva 20mg/ ED

    thats how I would do it.
    maybe drop the hcg to 250iu and hit it 10 days instead of 1 week. or just do 500iu for 10 days.

    *Edit* oh, I missunderstud the question.
    stop the hcg within a week after cycle.
    Do you mean stop the HCG a week before the start of PCT? I thought that is how it was suppose to go. I wasn't planning on running HCG for PCT, I was just planning on running it throughout the cycle @ 500IU twice a week. But I just copied those doses from someone else, not sure how good they are.

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    why do ppl find it hard to plan a proper pct!? have atleast an AI and a Serm for pct. for all my pct's here is what i do, i take 3 or 4 shots of 1500iu's of hcg either at the end of a cycle or during pct, and i always run clomid for 30 days, and nolva for 45 days and add an AI, i prefer proviron or aromasin . i never ran a-dex for pct i only use it during cycle if i was running more than 1 compound that aromatize, and i never run letro unless i see signs of gyno which i never had in all my yrs.

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    i recover beautifuly that way and i find proviron the best AI for keeping gains

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    why do ppl find it hard to plan a proper pct!? have atleast an AI and a Serm for pct. for all my pct's here is what i do, i take 3 or 4 shots of 1500iu's of hcg either at the end of a cycle or during pct, and i always run clomid for 30 days, and nolva for 45 days and add an AI, i prefer proviron or aromasin. i never ran a-dex for pct i only use it during cycle if i was running more than 1 compound that aromatize, and i never run letro unless i see signs of gyno which i never had in all my yrs.
    Why run HCG during PCT? Doesn't it suppress LH? I thought most ran it for the entire cycle at 1,000IU a week, then stopped it a week before PCT, as not to interfere with LH stimulation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king6
    Why run HCG during PCT? Doesn't it suppress LH? I thought most ran it for the entire cycle at 1,000IU a week, then stopped it a week before PCT, as not to interfere with LH stimulation.
    yes it does supress LH, thats why we use nolva with it, to solve that problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    yes it does supress LH, thats why we use nolva with it, to solve that problem
    But then isnt that just cancelling itself out?

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    nope, nolva is more powerful than you think, but also thats why we run nolva for atleast 2 wks after the last hcg shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by x_moe
    nope, nolva is more powerful than you think, but also thats why we run nolva for atleast 2 wks after the last hcg shot.
    Ahhh, I see. Do you think it would be better to

    A. Run HCG throughout the entire cycle and PCT
    B. Run HCG throughout entire cycle, but stop 2 weeks prior to PCT
    C. Run HCG the last 4 weeks of cycle, then stop before PCT
    C. Run HCG last 4 weeks of cycle and during PCT.

    Also for PCT, I would run Nolva and clomid, but should I add aromasin as well? And if so how much? Thanks for your patience and input.

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    you can run hcg anytime you want aslong as your running it correctly with the right compounds. coz your running clomid during pct then i suggest you go with option C "HCG the last 4 weeks of cycle, then stop before PCT", and run nolva/clomid/aromasin for 30 days for pct.
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    nolva 40/40/20/20
    clomid 100/100/50/50
    aromasin 25mg ed

    and to tell you the truth that pct is very good and can probably get you recovered without the use of hcg during cycle, but running hcg during cycle along with that pct will have you recover faster and easier. so i guess your set.
    Last edited by x_moe; 05-24-2007 at 10:25 PM.

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    Awsome, thanks Moe. I will run option C, then the regular PCT. I will run the HCG @ 500IU, twice a week. That seems to be the most popular dose. Thanks again!

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