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    Red face PCT for 12 week prop/winnie cycle? PLEASE HELP

    Hello,

    Just wondering what i should do for PCT after this cycle?
    It's my first cylce. Any help i could get on a PCT plan would be helpfull.
    I have already decided im doing this cycle, but i want to know what PCT i need before i start.

    W1 Test Propriante 50MG ED
    W2 Test Propriante 50MG ED
    W3 Test Propriante 50MG ED
    W4 Test Propriante 50MG ED
    W5 Test Propriante 50MG ED
    W6 Test Propriante 50MG ED
    W7 Test Propriante 50MG ED
    W8 Test Propriante 50MG ED
    W9 Test Propriante 50MG ESD 50MG Stanazol ED
    W10 Test Propriante 50MG ESD 50MG Stanazol ED
    W11 Test Propriante 50MG ESD 50MG Stanazol ED
    W12 Test Propriante 50MG ESD 50MG Stanazol ED

    PLEASE HELP?

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    Three days after the last Prop injection start PCT

    Day 1-30 100mg Clomid ED
    Day 1-30 20 mg Nolvadex ED
    Day 1-30 0.25mg Arimidex ED

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    yes, good pct...but you may want to reconsider your cycle by upping the prop by 50 ed to 100mg ed...50mg ed is only 350mg/week...not really enough test to really show results IMO...and be prepared that it can be painful which is why it is not generally recommended for your first time out, but if you think you can do it, go for it cuz you hold a lot less water on prop...

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    I can get the clomid in ausssie, but is the nolvadex and arimidex from: http://www.anabolicreview-research.com the real deal? will it work for my pct?
    Last edited by allinthemind; 01-25-2006 at 03:08 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allinthemind
    cool i will have to research nolvadex and armidex, i don't know if i can get my hands on some, but i can find some clomid somewhere.
    Click on the flashing banner in the top right hand corner of your screen, or the names that are highlighted in blue in this thread, you can get them there

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    I do not want to start the debate again, but please research before adding arimidex to your PCT. I have read that it is not a particularly good idea. Not advising you to go either way, just advising to do some research.

    For my PCT, I am using Tongkat Ali, Clomid (minimal dose), Nolva......followed by a clen cycle. From what I have read, this is the best I can get without using HCG .

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    I do not want to start the debate again, but please research before adding arimidex to your PCT. I have read that it is not a particularly good idea. Not advising you to go either way, just advising to do some research.

    For my PCT, I am using Tongkat Ali, Clomid (minimal dose), Nolva......followed by a clen cycle. From what I have read, this is the best I can get without using HCG .

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    im also starting my first cycle with prop at 100mg a day, should i stack with winstrol ?

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    yea everyone has told me to do winstrol the last 4 weeks of my cycle at 50mg a day.


    Hey does anyone know how many mcg's in mg?
    And is it ok to do my pct with just clomid and clen ?
    Last edited by allinthemind; 02-03-2006 at 10:34 PM. Reason: adding a question

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kale
    Three days after the last Prop injection start PCT

    Day 1-30 100mg Clomid ED
    Day 1-30 20 mg Nolvadex ED
    Day 1-30 0.25mg Arimidex ED
    Agreed.

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    huh??

    Are you guys sure about that pct?
    i looked around and my pct will actually cost me more than my cycle did.........is that normal.
    can't i do clomid and clen for my pct?
    please help me out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allinthemind
    Are you guys sure about that pct?
    i looked around and my pct will actually cost me more than my cycle did.........is that normal.
    can't i do clomid and clen for my pct?
    please help me out?
    If you are strapped for cash, you can do a nolva only PCT. Nolva at 40mg for the first two weeks and 20mg for the last two weeks.
    What dose were you going to run the clen at?

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    i was going to run the the clen asi have read in other forums.
    i will start of with a minimum dose of 0.02 then go up by 0.02 every day till i start to get the trembles then i will drop it down a notch and run it for 4 weeks 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 2 weeks on.

    Is a nolva only cycle sufficient?
    i think that sounds like the go since im short off cash atm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by allinthemind
    i was going to run the the clen asi have read in other forums.
    i will start of with a minimum dose of 0.02 then go up by 0.02 every day till i start to get the trembles then i will drop it down a notch and run it for 4 weeks 2 weeks on 2 weeks off 2 weeks on.

    Is a nolva only cycle sufficient?
    i think that sounds like the go since im short off cash atm.
    scotttiger54 (fellow member):

    My experiences w/ nolva only pct...

    well guys it's conclusive, nolva only pct works...quite well actually.

    its been 4 wks since my last inj of test cyp. started nolva only @40mg/day 17 days after last inj. during the 17 day break before beginning pct i administered 500 iu's of hcg e3d (this is how i run hcg during less harsh cycles). just recently had bloodwork done and when i called my doc said i had already pretty much recovered...completely! i still plan to finish my nolva regiment just to be on the safe side but i must say im impressed. i have had almost no unpleasent sides. a bit more common headaches is about all. Thanks to JohnnyB for the enlightenment, hopefully this will draw some attention and open some eyes. i plan on running a pretty good, hard cycle in about 3 months and will apply the same regiment (hcg used thoughout will be only difference). here's the regiment i am running, its disgustingly simple:

    wks 1-2: 40mg/ed nolva
    wks 2 until sex drive's back: 20mg/ed nolva
    started trib @2g's ed when nolva was started

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    nolva is what i will do then, will it be safe to run nolva with then clen ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by allinthemind
    nolva is what i will do then, will it be safe to run nolva with then clen?
    Yes.

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    cool sounds good

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    does nolva come in liquid and or tab?
    and how many mg is in each tab or ml.

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