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    Test e/deca & anavar, pct help. Hcg/nolva/clomid

    Hey guys, was hoping you could give me some excellent advice on my PCT.

    My cycle has been,

    1-6 Weeks Test E, 400mg
    1-5 Weeks Deca at 250mg ( I missed a shot my 2nd week)
    .5mg Adex E4D

    7-11 Weeks Test E, 600mg
    7-10 Weeks Deca, 375mg
    .5mg Adex E4D
    I also just started Anavar at 40mg ED, I intend to run that right up to my PCT in 5 weeks. I'm on Day 2.

    I've cut the Deca, and plan to do Test E for 3 more weeks, and Anavar for 5 more.
    So it would be 10wks Deca, 14wks Test, and 5 wks Anavar.

    I plan to use Nolva and Clomid in my PCT, and could use a little advice on the dosage but was thinking something like,

    Clomid 100/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/20/20/20

    ALSO, I would like to take HCG , but I don't know where to put that into my cycle and how to do it. I've heard of a blasting phase, but any and all advice on this would be helpful!

    Thanks again!!!

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    Hcg should be run from the beginning of the cycle right up to 3 days before starting pct. Your pct looks fine run your test 1-2 weeks longer then the deca . Why are you adjusting your doses though?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    Hcg should be run from the beginning of the cycle right up to 3 days before starting pct. Your pct looks fine run your test 1-2 weeks longer then the deca. Why are you adjusting your doses though?
    Ok, well I didn't run the HCG . Will I be fine without out? I've been told to take it but the only way I can see is to blast it right before my PCT. A week prior or something. I adjusted my dose because my training partner said I might as well, get a little extra test/deca in my system. That's the only reason I bumped it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibinlyrical
    Ok, well I didn't run the HCG. Will I be fine without out? I've been told to take it but the only way I can see is to blast it right before my PCT. A week prior or something. I adjusted my dose because my training partner said I might as well, get a little extra test/deca in my system. That's the only reason I bumped it up.
    how many weeks are you in to your cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    how many weeks are you in to your cycle?
    I did 10wks of deca and 11wks of test, I'm done deca now though and am doing 3 more weeks of test and 5 more weeks of anavar , 40mg ed.

    I need to know where to fit the HCG in? As for a blasting phase as that's all that's available.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ibinlyrical

    I did 10wks of deca and 11wks of test, I'm done deca now though and am doing 3 more weeks of test and 5 more weeks of anavar , 40mg ed.

    I need to know where to fit the HCG in? As for a blasting phase as that's all that's available.
    Run the hcg from right now right up to 3 days prior to starting pct. that puts you on the hcg for 7 weeks before starting pct

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    And drop the anavar when you stop everything else. Even anavar is suppressive.
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    So if I start HCG immediately, that would give me 5 weeks approx, a little less of HCG before my PCT and 3 weeks of Test and Anavar before cutting em out.

    Then my Clomid/Nolva dosage is good?

    What's an effective HCG dose without causing too much aromtisation?

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    It's your first cycle, drop the anavar altogether. Adding deca was too much. Absolutely no need for multiple compounds until you are a few cycles in and even then.....

    Start your HCG immediately at 250iu twice per week

    Clomid 75/50/50/50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    It's your first cycle, drop the anavar altogether. Adding deca was too much. Absolutely no need for multiple compounds until you are a few cycles in and even then.....

    Start your HCG immediately at 250iu twice per week

    Clomid 75/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/20/20/20
    Ok! My other question is, will I need to my boost my Adex dosage, or the frequency of it because of the aromitising properties of the HCG. I've had no signs of gyno that I'm aware of at what I've been doing, and would like to keep it that way. Also, if I need to taper it off. How should I do that? Thank you!!

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    AI doesn't work with the potential E2 spike from HCG . But no, you wouldn't need to up it, the dosage is negligible in terms of increasing your e2. No need to taper up or down either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    AI doesn't work with the potential E2 spike from HCG. But no, you wouldn't need to up it, the dosage is negligible in terms of increasing your e2. No need to taper up or down either.
    Ok, well I'll keep that in mind then. Nolva/Clomid should balance out any potential estrogen rebound I experience from not being on the Adex anymore right? I appreciate all the advice. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ibinlyrical
    Ok, well I'll keep that in mind then. Nolva/Clomid should balance out any potential estrogen rebound I experience from not being on the Adex anymore right? I appreciate all the advice. Thanks!
    nolva will protect your mammary glands helping fight off gyno

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    Quote Originally Posted by jim230027 View Post
    nolva will protect your mammary glands helping fight off gyno
    Ok! Thanks! I really appreciate it.

    If I were to take the var, would you suggest stopping it as the same time as the test? Or carrying it through. I only have 23 days worth of dosing and didn't want the money to be lost. Just a question is all, because I had already started.

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    Var is a weak steroid . No issue taking it. The only real impact it will give is vascularity and pump. As far as gains you arent going to see much for the normal 6-week mantra said on this site. It will help your workout push and weights move better when your muscles are full with the increased nitrogen balance.

    Deca is fine anytime. It has a far more proven track record than testosterone (used WAY before testosterone had to be taken on cycle) and not one major body builder has ever said Deca was bad or not a great compound for resiliant gains. The medicinal portion of the drug from a synoval fluid in joint perspective is unmatched.

    As KelKel pointed out.....Unless you are on TrT drop everything at the end of the cycle. You will never complete PCT if you do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicagotarsier View Post
    Var is a weak steroid . No issue taking it. The only real impact it will give is vascularity and pump. As far as gains you arent going to see much for the normal 6-week mantra said on this site. It will help your workout push and weights move better when your muscles are full with the increased nitrogen balance.

    Deca is fine anytime. It has a far more proven track record than testosterone (used WAY before testosterone had to be taken on cycle) and not one major body builder has ever said Deca was bad or not a great compound for resiliant gains. The medicinal portion of the drug from a synoval fluid in joint perspective is unmatched.

    As KelKel pointed out.....Unless you are on TrT drop everything at the end of the cycle. You will never complete PCT if you do not.

    Thank you! Do you agree with the HCG dosing? I'm about to start taking it tommorow, I had to acquire it. The take it up to 3 day before PCT?

    So I should definitely stop Anavar when I stop the test even though it has a shorter halflife? That seems to be clearly what I should do but I'm just asking again! Thanks again.

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