Nolva only?

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Hey guys I am going to cycle 6 weeks on Finaflex 1-Andro and I have a question about PCT. Would it be better to simply run nolva 20/20/10/10 and nothing else? Or would running nolva 20/20/10/10 with a natty test booster like bioforge be better?

Thanks guys

[kelkel]

Why would you consider any kind of cycle at your age?
Read the stickies, plenty on pct.
Many test boosters are suppressive of natural testosterone .

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Why would you consider any kind of cycle at your age?
Read the stickies, plenty on pct.
Many test boosters are suppressive of natural testosterone.

I figured it was one of the most mild ones out there; if I were to get my feet wet with any, why not be this one?

And could you point me to your findings on natural test boosters actually suppressing test? This is actually the first I have heard of this. I tried google but all I see is "bro science" and it's hard to find what is factual or not.

I will check out the stickies for more SERM info.

[kelkel]

Well, at 21 your endogenous test should be maxed out. Why F with it?
Which are suppressive depends on what's in them.

Just saw your post count. Welcome.

[MuscleInk]

Well, at 21 your endogenous test should be maxed out. Why F with it?
Which are suppressive depends on what's in them.

Just saw your post count. Welcome.

Kel is right. Really no need for anything other than food. Get your feet wet with nutrition and training. Young guys really don't want to hear that, but even with actual steroids , growth never happens unless the right amount of food and macros are consumed every day, day after day to drive growth. Every single guy that says they hit a plateau is almost always not eating enough to drive additional growth. Everyone wants a fast track to a better physique. There is NO such thing. If half those test boosters came close to delivering on their promises, every guy in the gym would be a monster. You will be wasting your money.

Check out our nutrition section, Calculate your TDEE and the calorie and macros needed to build lean muscle and let your natural testosterone levels drive your gains for now.

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Well, at 21 your endogenous test should be maxed out. Why F with it?
Which are suppressive depends on what's in them.

Just saw your post count. Welcome.

Thanks for the welcome. I wouldn't normally disagree with you but this does happen to be a forum about steroids , correct? Look, I am not a 16 year old kid that is just wanting to cycle for the hell of it. I legitimately am interested in it and I have put my research and time into making sure I am doing it responsibly. Can you blame me for asking a simple question about the most important step to this cycle?

Kel is right. Really no need for anything other than food. Get your feet wet with nutrition and training. Young guys really don't want to hear that, but even with actual steroids, growth never happens unless the right amount of food and macros are consumed every day, day after day to drive growth. Every single guy that says they hit a plateau is almost always not eating enough to drive additional growth. Everyone wants a fast track to a better physique. There is NO such thing. If half those test boosters came close to delivering on their promises, every guy in the gym would be a monster. You will be wasting your money.

Check out our nutrition section, Calculate your TDEE and the calorie and macros needed to build lean muscle and let your natural testosterone levels drive your gains for now.

The same thing goes for you. What makes you so sure that I haven't been counting macros the past few years and making sure I am taking in more than I am losing? I've gotten my feet wet years ago with proper nutrition and training; I can understand why you thought otherwise though.

Look, I am not some uneducated novice taking S-drol on the last day of my cycle looking for advice on a PCT. I picked a mild compound, which you can all agree, and I am simply asking whether or not my PCT is sufficient enough with a SERM or would it be necessary to add in a tried and true natural test booster along with it?

Thanks again.

[kelkel]

Post a pic. Let's see your progress so far. That will tell us everything......

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Why is it when someone asks for advice no one offers it? But sure enough when someone makes a new thread about running a cycle of a harsh compound and they now have gyno, people are quick to criticize them about not doing things right.

So now a new poster has to validate themselves to other members to be able to get advice for their use of steroids and prohormones? You're clearly too immature and incapable of helping another lifter out. I'll try a different forum, have a good one.

[kelkel]

You were given advice, it's just not what you want to hear. We do our best to educate the younger generation (yeah, you) to not take this step and focus on nutrition and training. This is due to your HPTA not being fully developed just yet. But no doubt you know all that already. Most guys at your age are no where near their natural potential which prompted the pic request.

And some of the advice you've been given was from a doctor. The other has forgotten more about this than you currently know. So yes, go somewhere else where they don't care about their members health.

[Dougiefresh7707]

Why is it when someone asks for advice no one offers it? But sure enough when someone makes a new thread about running a cycle of a harsh compound and they now have gyno, people are quick to criticize them about not doing things right. So now a new poster has to validate themselves to other members to be able to get advice for their use of steroids and prohormones? You're clearly too immature and incapable of helping another lifter out. I'll try a different forum, have a good one.

Bro I did exactly what you are doing about 2 years ago I was young hardheaded and wanted to cycle. I did a lot of research I was training hard before hand and nutrition was 90% dialed In. I did a test only cycle (which if you did you research should be the topic if your question). I did it good results but lost most of it and ran into a couple problems mostly depression in pct. so take the advice man your natural test levels are amazing right now use it.