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11-08-2014, 06:35 PM #1New Member
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PCT gone bad, estrogen rebound and gyno post pct, help a newb out
Hello everyone, this is my first post, and I would really appreciate all the help that I can get so thanks in advance,
Long story short, I finished my first cycle and pct and it was somewhat a success, I went from 186 lbs with 24.6% bf, to 174 lbs with 8.4% bf, cut a lot of fat, even build some muscle, look way different, IŽll post pics if you like, (still nothing impressive compare to a lot of guys here) it was a low dose, but long cycle:
100mg Test prop 3xweek 16weeks
50 mg Anavar ED first 6 weeks
50 mg Proviron ED 16 weeks
hcg last 4 weeks a total of 10000 I.Us
20mg nolva throughout the whole cycle
No AI as you can see, i know now that was a big mistake, thought i had it covered with proviron, obviously not the case
PCT
Nolva
40/40/20/20
Everything was going fine on pct, my diet still on spot, bumped calories to maintenance and kept most if not all of my strength at the gym, with little to no fat gain
Then disaster came, throughout my pct even though my strength and mood were ok, I had somewhat low libido, weak morning wood, non existent some days, i had normal sex almost every day on cycle, and on pct libido decreased, I didn't have erectile dysfunction, I could still enjoy great sex and satisfy the gf just fine, I just noticed that i stopped thinking about sex as much, i stopped looking for it, that was my first worry but IŽve read here that its normal to have low sex drive on pct, i was blaming it on the nolva, so as soon as I finished the 4 weeks pct I stopped nolva cold turkey, 4 days later I had an itch on my left nipple, to the side of the left nipple to be more precise, it became sensitive, it didn't hurt, i have no lump under the nipple, just a little I guess its a really small sized lump to the left, it doesn't hurt to the touch, and i have one on the right nipple too but no itching no sensitivity, the right one feels normal, they BOTH look normal, no puffiness or anything, but i have this sensation on my left nipple,
I got scared so i did all the research I could and figured this could be an estrogen rebound, nolva alone didn't help much the HPTA (I suppose), I've read clomid its for that, so I started taking clomid and nolva as if it was a new pct protocol, 100mg Clomid, 40 nolva first 3 days, then 50 Clom 20 nolvx the next 4 weeks, maybe taper down nolva I haven't figure it out.
I tried to get Aromasin , the its nowhere to be found in my country also Letro its near impossible to get, all I can get its Adex, Clomid and Nolva,
My question is should I keep this up? the new protocol? after 2 days the sensation has decreased, but it's still there, nothing visible no puffines,
My plan was to incorporate adex to get rid of the estrogen, I've also read this would be beneficial for the gyno and the libido, run Adex and Clomid 3 weeks, then Clomid and Nolva an other 3 weeks to control the possible estrogenic rebound from the adex with nolva, but I don't know what to do, I'm not sure, Im so confused I thought I made it out of the woods when i finished pct but obviously wasn't the case. The possible gyno thing really worries me, any help would be much appreciated, Thanks in advance.
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11-13-2014, 05:28 AM #2
Even with Dex u may have an estro rebound when discontinued... Try a few weeks of Stane, with some low dose dex added for the first week to get ur levels down quicker. Stane takes a lil longer to cut down estro, but has no rebond when stopped. Hit a decent PCT with CLOMID/Nolva. Seems ur nolva dose on cycle wasnt the right choice. Stay with AI's and HCG on cycles. Run a 75/75/50/50clom 40/40/20/20. Get bloods when u can. Preferably 3 or more months after pct finish.
Last edited by Stosh_112; 11-13-2014 at 05:32 AM.
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11-13-2014, 05:29 AM #3
ARR has STANE
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