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    Pct advice 27yo second cycle

    Hi Guys,

    Cycle started 22/07/2014
    Ending now last pin 11/01/2015

    5.5 month cycle.

    Started with test E. Finished on test P.

    I used HCG all through the cycle 15000IU in total.

    Other compounds used in tiny amounts (masteron 3 vials), arimidex every now and then 0.25 eod. and 500mg of winstrol ).

    For PCT : 3 days after last pin:

    Chlomid 100 75 50 50
    Nolva. 40 40 20 20 20

    Should i consider using some more HCG before i start the pct? I was pretty good with the dosing on cycle pretty much every 3.5 days i was taking in 250iu.

    I planned initially a 16 week cycle and went through a break up and coudnt deal with being on chlomid sides with low test when i was already in the dumps.

    Thanks to anyone for help

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    I'd just extend your pct by a couple of weeks and hope for the best.
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    I would do 4 shots of HCG 5000iu one e5d and run 20mg of nolva with it the whole time.

    So start nolva, after 3days on nolva pin 5000iu wait 5days pin another..... and continue nolva 20mg the whole time using HCG and 5 more days after ladt one

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    Planning on trying to have kids in about 6 months if it bears any relevance. As confusing as it is with the above reference break up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by half natural
    Planning on trying to have kids in about 6 months if it bears any relevance. As confusing as it is with the above reference break up.
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    Than add some folic acid to the stack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaspaco
    I would do 4 shots of HCG 5000iu one e5d and run 20mg of nolva with it the whole time. So start nolva, after 3days on nolva pin 5000iu wait 5days pin another..... and continue nolva 20mg the whole time using HCG and 5 more days after ladt one
    Hi Gaspaco, Purchasing 4 x 5000iu would cost me around 900$ in my location right now. I was considering getting one or two as i have all my chlomid and nolva on hand already. Another question probably irrelevant i have gotten itchy nipples on 1000iu hcg in one injection however this was on cycle. I am guessing this wont happen once all the test has left my system. I went back to 250iu e3.5d after that looking back not sure why i did it. It was during second week of test e 1000mg/wk loading first 2 weeks.
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    I can also only get packets of 3 x 1500iu glass vials at the moment. I have spare vials and have transferred it in the past to make it easier but yeah not sure if that helps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black
    I'd just extend your pct by a couple of weeks and hope for the best.
    Would you not reccomend a short blast of HCG prior BAck in black?

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    Quote Originally Posted by half natural View Post
    Would you not reccomend a short blast of HCG prior BAck in black?
    Not if you've been running it throughout. I think an extra 2 weeks of clomid and nolva will be of more benefit and try an minimise the bumpy ride that you are likely to feel.

    Clomid 75/50/50/50/50/50
    Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20

    But you can google Dr Scally's power pct protocol and try it that way and blast it before you start any SERM
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    Quote Originally Posted by half natural
    Hi Gaspaco, Purchasing 4 x 5000iu would cost me around 900$ in my location right now. I was considering getting one or two as i have all my chlomid and nolva on hand already. Another question probably irrelevant i have gotten itchy nipples on 1000iu hcg in one injection however this was on cycle. I am guessing this wont happen once all the test has left my system. I went back to 250iu e3.5d after that looking back not sure why i did it. It was during second week of test e 1000mg/wk loading first 2 weeks.
    Thats why u need to run nolva with hcg to control estrogen raise from hcg.

    Do what BIB said, extend pct.

    Add DAA, zinc, maybe some tribulus

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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black
    Not if you've been running it throughout. I think an extra 2 weeks of clomid and nolva will be of more benefit and try an minimise the bumpy ride that you are likely to feel. Clomid 75/50/50/50/50/50 Nolva 40/40/20/20/20/20 But you can google Dr Scally's power pct protocol and try it that way and blast it before you start any SERM
    Ok great thanks for the info. I will roll with this and have look at that one on google thank you BIB ?

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