Signals looking for when recovering...

[ChemyoDude]

For guys that don't get bloods done just curious how do you know when you have completed PCT? Or you guys just running it out the normal nolva/clomid 6 weeks? Cutting the doses in half mid way thru?

Just curious. I know it's 100% wrong to not get bloods but being in NJ. I just can't get bloods done like any normal state that isn't completely fd up. I'm not taking anything very harsh either. ( Sarms , Anavar , Winny, etc)

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[Gallowmere]

For guys that don't get bloods done just curious how do you know when you have completed PCT? Or you guys just running it out the normal nolva/clomid 6 weeks? Cutting the doses in half mid way thru?

Just curious. I know it's 100% wrong to not get bloods but being in NJ. I just can't get bloods done like any normal state that isn't completely fd up. I'm not taking anything very harsh either. ( Sarms , Anavar , Winny, etc)

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If you have a friend in another state, there are ways around the NY/NJ/CA fuckery with bloods.

[ChemyoDude]

If you have a friend in another state, there are ways around the NY/NJ/CA fuckery with bloods.

Do tell. Got a friend in Florida

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[Gallowmere]

Basically, you have your friend create an account, put in the requisition, have them select a lab in a neighboring state to you, send you the PDF, make the appointment online, etc. Places like LabCorp don’t check ID for voluntary bloodwork, so long as that information is put into their online appointment form. So essentially, you are getting blood drawn on your friend’s behalf, without the lab knowing.
Then just have said friend shoot you the results.
Yes, this is illegal as fuck, but considering what we’re doing to want to use this backdoor (AAS), who the hell cares?

[ChemyoDude]

Basically, you have your friend create an account, put in the requisition, have them select a lab in a neighboring state to you, send you the PDF, make the appointment online, etc. Places like LabCorp don’t check ID for voluntary bloodwork, so long as that information is put into their online appointment form. So essentially, you are getting blood drawn on your friend’s behalf, without the lab knowing.
Then just have said friend shoot you the results.
Yes, this is illegal as fuck, but considering what we’re doing to want to use this backdoor (AAS), who the hell cares?

True. But without bloods how would you judge your pct

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[Gallowmere]

True. But without bloods how would you judge your pct

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Honestly, there’s no real way to. You’re gonna feel a bit like ass when going through that drop off from cycle, to PCT, to natural levels, and the severity will vary from person to person and cycle to cycle, so that’s a bad indicator.
Given how dynamic the body is on a day to day and week to week basis, by the time you realize your levels haven’t recovered, it’s too late to do much about it, other than go on TRT or blast/cruise and start again.
There are some very clear “oh hell, shit’s fucked” signs, like you suddenly start growing titties after PCT, or you dick never wants to work, but again, that falls into the “too late, start damage control” realm of things.
For the stuff that’s relatively minor, you won’t be able to tell on anything even remotely resembling a prompt timeframe.

[Windex]

Bloodwork as Gallow said. There's no way to guess.

[ChemyoDude]

Honestly, there’s no real way to. You’re gonna feel a bit like ass when going through that drop off from cycle, to PCT, to natural levels, and the severity will vary from person to person and cycle to cycle, so that’s a bad indicator.
Given how dynamic the body is on a day to day and week to week basis, by the time you realize your levels haven’t recovered, it’s too late to do much about it, other than go on TRT or blast/cruise and start again.
There are some very clear “oh hell, shit’s fucked” signs, like you suddenly start growing titties after PCT, or you dick never wants to work, but again, that falls into the “too late, start damage control” realm of things.
For the stuff that’s relatively minor, you won’t be able to tell on anything even remotely resembling a prompt timeframe.

Yeah. In the past, and again I'm not running and crazy tren or Halo cycles, just like Sarms and var.. IV never felt like shit and never really lost my gains which is wierd. The only thing iv noticed is a decrease in size of ejaculation. But within 2-3 weeks of clomid/nolva it's back to normal...

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[Gallowmere]

Depending upon which SARMs are being used, and the Anavar dosage, it’s entirely possible that you’re only suppressing and not completely shutting down test production. If that’s the case, I wouldn’t expect recovery to be that much of an issue at all, though on a long enough cycle timeline, it will get worse and worse.
Some info on Anavar suppression based on dosing: