Results 1 to 17 of 17
  1. #1
    garygill is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    107

    Question wat if i dont use nolvadex and clomid after sust!?

    what if i dont use nolvadex or clomid??wat will happen?
    BTW.im doing sust

  2. #2
    PurePower is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    Antarctica
    Posts
    1,919
    what if you posted a more information?

    answer: you will get a lot better responses

  3. #3
    garygill is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    107
    if i didnt use nolvadex during my cycle...im in the middle of it and im doing 20 amps of sust.so i wanted to no what will happen if i dont use nolvadex?

    and what will happen if i dont use clomid..in post cylce..jsu have bitch looking tits!?

  4. #4
    Hazard's Avatar
    Hazard is offline AR-Elite Hall of Famer
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    20,517
    not to mention your test production will be obselete..... good luck with another boner before christmas

  5. #5
    Da Bull's Avatar
    Da Bull is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    X
    Posts
    0
    Your recovery from the cycle will be harder,and you might loose more gains than you actually want to.

  6. #6
    LilVito469's Avatar
    LilVito469 is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Beantown
    Posts
    1,314
    and you probably wont even keep your gains

  7. #7
    LilVito469's Avatar
    LilVito469 is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Beantown
    Posts
    1,314
    dammit dabull u beat me to it!

  8. #8
    2timer's Avatar
    2timer is offline Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    canada
    Posts
    1,228
    you will die! joking but why wouldn't you. plus sexual drives will be killed. I think sex wins!

  9. #9
    jrock34 is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2001
    Location
    usa
    Posts
    205
    what if i dont use nolvadex or clomid??wat will happen?
    BTW.im doing sust


    YOU'D BE AN IDIOT. Spend a little extra and keep your gains. it's a no-brainer. you'll probably get flamed by alot of bros out here too.

  10. #10
    Da Bull's Avatar
    Da Bull is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    X
    Posts
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by LilVito469
    dammit dabull u beat me to it!
    ...

  11. #11
    barbarian's Avatar
    barbarian is offline Banned
    Join Date
    Jul 2003
    Location
    kentucky
    Posts
    1,814
    da bull beats everyone lol

  12. #12
    123BJ is offline Associate Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2004
    Location
    ontario
    Posts
    334
    pct is just as important as the cycle itself.... ppl say no test no cycle, should be the same way with pct... IMO........

  13. #13
    LuvMuhRoids's Avatar
    LuvMuhRoids is offline Anabolic Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Behind Ur booty
    Posts
    3,069
    Interesting, I see you posted the same question twice. I answered the other post but if you miss that here you go.

    The reasoning behind anti-estrogens and post cycle therapy is to reduce side affects of the large unnatural dosages of testosterone into your system. Other reasons are, anti-estrogens and anti-armotizers may keep off unwanted water retention, reduce inflamation of the mammory glands, and to subside the other known side affects due to the rise of estrogen over test in your plasma levels.

    Clomid also is a mild form of anti-estrogen as well as an administration technique to restore normal functions of the natural production of test. When you come off your cycle you will encounter what is called an estrogen back lash. At this point because you ceased test injections, estrogen over whelms the receptors and floods the levels. At this point you need to restore your own function and reduce estrogen because you can still encounter gyno during PCT.

    Again, using clomid post cycle will help you maintain your gains and actually cause a bridge to the next cycle.

    That explain enough for you?

  14. #14
    Illusion of size's Avatar
    Illusion of size is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    127
    The boys may flame me but I think you should always do Nolva/liqudex during and PCT with clomid AND HCG afterwards. But I'm paranoid about keeping my gains and my boys.
    Maybe if you were doing Primo and var you could get away with no Dex but otherwise, better safe than sorry.

  15. #15
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Posts
    3,124
    Quote Originally Posted by Illusion of size
    The boys may flame me but I think you should always do Nolva/liqudex during and PCT with clomid AND HCG afterwards. But I'm paranoid about keeping my gains and my boys.
    Maybe if you were doing Primo and var you could get away with no Dex but otherwise, better safe than sorry.
    Clomid concurrent with HCG is like pissin' in the wind....it's counterproductive. HCG supresses HPTA function....it has its place prior to clomid...that's it.

  16. #16
    Illusion of size's Avatar
    Illusion of size is offline Junior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Posts
    127

    Talking

    OOPS sorry, I didn't mean in the same time frame.I meant as standard PCT. I need to make myself more clear.
    Thanks Einsstein

  17. #17
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Rhelm of Disarray
    Posts
    2,292
    At this point because you ceased test injections, estrogen over whelms the receptors and floods the levels.
    That's a biggie there.
    Cortisol is like an Army that keeps growing and growing and growing, along with Fox holes and Bunkers for that Army (Cortisol Receptors) that keep growing and growing and growing, but they're kept at bay by a Mighty weapon, then one day, the Mighty Weapon is gone........They attack, and the onslought becomes a Masacare.......
    Just take the dang Nolva! Why this remains a topic for debate is completely beyond me, seriously.
    TSW

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •