Ok, I've read the hell out of a bunch of different threads trying to clear this up, but it seems that everyone is iffy in the subject of HCG. A guy in my fraternity won a pretty big amateur comp. last year and he told me that everythin that he did he was told to do by his trainer, from work outs to AS usage. And his trainer has taken a couple of other guys to winning comps too. But the thing that gets me is the way he has people cycle gear. It goes against pretty much everything that i have read on this bored. But the thing that he says is to use hcg instead of clomid for post recovery. He says that hcg gets ur test up and running better than clomid. what is everyones take on this? I know its not much of a question, but more for a discussion. Also, he says to use clen with the hcg.