01-19-2006, 08:11 AM #1
01-19-2006, 10:19 AM #2
I dont think fakers will waste time to fake gel bro but bump for that i would like to know too.
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01-19-2006, 03:36 PM #3
got to be kedding me
01-19-2006, 05:41 PM #4Originally Posted by ][-][ ][-][ ][-][
The title and description of the product seem to contradict the fact that esters cannot be absorbed through the skin; or at least this is what I have been told. Androgel and other topical T gels/creams contain just pure T, that can be absorbed through the skin. Which is fine for HRT, but not much use in BB.
Originally Posted by ajfina
01-20-2006, 01:25 PM #5New Member
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gels just dont work in bodybuilding
01-20-2006, 01:37 PM #6Originally Posted by BODYMASTER
thats mainly for HRT people, period
01-22-2006, 08:45 AM #7Originally Posted by ajfina
I'm just curious about this product, because, as I say, I thought esters couldn't be absorbed through the skin?
I would like to know however, if this product will help with energy/drive and toning up? Or if its just a complete scam?
I thought this would be a good place to ask questions regarding the science of steroids .
Last edited by thale; 01-22-2006 at 08:48 AM.
01-22-2006, 08:49 AM #8Originally Posted by thale
01-23-2006, 03:52 AM #9Originally Posted by Anabolios
Anyone able to offer any scientific input?
I love the selection of smilies here.
01-23-2006, 05:07 AM #10
Prolly would work OK if...
It would prolly work OK if you stacked it with Deca , Test and Dball.
01-23-2006, 08:21 AM #11Originally Posted by thale
will defenetely give u that boost
I did try androgel few years a go ( still have one brand new box ) i used it as a transdermal gel for finaplix and it worked for that
but i know people that use gels for better sex life
but im not sure about the ester and transdermal gel
sorry if i was an ass b4
01-23-2006, 08:22 AM #12Originally Posted by kahoona32
01-23-2006, 10:08 AM #13
I've heard horror stories about topical "test" gels.....I would definitely go with the injections.....
01-23-2006, 10:49 AM #14
You asked for my opinion in a pm so here it is: I have no opinion. I've read wonderful things about topical gels and transdermal carriers, I've read equally as many negative things. I've seen people claim 80% absorbtion, I've seen people claim 10%. What I have never seen is one conclusive study (or at least promising study) which would lead me to belive that transdermal gels/concoctions are worth the time, money and hassle.
As for your particular product I'm afraid I've never seen it before. It could be real, it could be fake. All I know is that I would not be inclined to pay any money for said item or hope to achieve visual results with it.
I'm not trying to be negative, just trying to give you my two cents. I wish I could tell you that it was definitely real or fake, but truth is I don't know much about it.
Aa far as esters being absorbed through skin I'm not sure. The people who claim that esters can't be absorbed say so b/c of weight. What I find conflicting is that the hormone is often heavier than the ester itself. Then I think about all the guys who used dmso with tren acetate. Acetate is an ester, and if it can be absorbed via dmso then why couldn't other esters? This is only speculation on my part, I can't say for sure b/c frankly I just don't know.
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01-27-2006, 04:52 PM #15Originally Posted by ajfina
01-27-2006, 05:09 PM #16Originally Posted by symatech
I have noticed an increase in energy and drive, and some acne.. Also, this stuff seems to react badly with chlorine. I used the gel in the morning, didn't go for swim till late evening, but noticed a large red rash afterwards, just where I had applied it around my shoulders, looked like sunburn.
Oh well, guess we need some sort of biochem boffin (assuming this stuff is real) to clear everything up..
01-28-2006, 12:56 AM #17Anabolic Member
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Do you are taking this... to get bigger and stronger?
Have you ever heard of injectables? They're all the new rage. EVERYBODY IS DOING IT!
Besides, why use something like that when it appeares to mess you up more than it helps you.
01-31-2006, 03:49 PM #18Originally Posted by SnaX
As I've said, I'm not expecting to seriously bulk up using this stuff, but if it helps with strength and tone (in combination with the right diet/supplements) then great. Cost is another factor, at $25 a jar, it's worth trying it out.
The side effects are pretty minor, with the correct application, and tolerance - significantly milder than most anabolic injectables I suspect.
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