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    Some of George Bush's lies

    Bush on: Children’s Hospitals
    “This is a hospital, but it's also - it's a place full of love. And I was most touched by meeting the parents and the kids and the nurses and the docs, all of whom are working hard to save lives. I want to thank the moms who are here. Thank you very much for you hospitality…There's a lot of talk about budgets right now, and I'm here to talk about the budget. My job as the President is to submit a budget to the Congress and to set priorities, and one of the priorities that we've talked about is making sure the health care systems are funded.” – Egleston Children's Hospital, Atlanta, Georgia 3/1/01



    Bush's reality:Bush’s first budget proposed cutting grants to children’s hospitals like the one he visited by 15% ($34 million). His 2004 budget additionally proposes to cut 30% ($86 million) out of grants to children’s hospitals.


    Bush On:First Responders
    “We're dealing with first-time responders to make sure they've got what's needed to be able to respond. “ – Bush, 3/27/2002


    Bush Reality: Bush had been saying that he was proposing $3.5 billion in “new” money for first responders. However, his budget tried to cut more than $1 billion out of existing grants to local police/fire departments to fund this. Then, in August of 2002, Bush rejected $150 million for grants to state and local first responders. Bush’s decision prompted the President of the Firefighters Union to say, “President Bush, don't lionize our fallen brothers in one breath, and then stab us in the back by eliminating funding for our members to fight terrorism and stay safe.” The President of the Virginia firefighters association said, “The president has merely been using firefighters and their families for one big photo opportunity.”



    Bush On:Border Security

    “A secure and efficient border is key to our economic security.” – Bush, 9/9/02


    Bush Reality: While Bush did hold a photo-op to sign legislation promising more INS/Border Patrol staff and facilities, his budget provided no additional money for this. Additionally, in August, Bush vetoed $6.25M for promised pay upgrades for Border Patrol agents. Additionally, he vetoed all $39 million for the Container Security Initiative. His 2004 Budget slashes total total “Border and Transportation Security” by $284 million.



    Bush On: Fiscal Responsibility
    “One of the ways we've got to make sure that we keep our economy strong is to be wise about how we spend our money. If you overspend, it creates a fundamental weakness in the foundation of economic growth. And so I'm working with Congress to make sure they hear the message -- the message of fiscal responsibility.” Bush, 9/16/02


    Bush Reality: Less than 6 months after this pronouncement, Bush proposed a budget that would put the government more than $300 billion into deficit. As National Journal noted on 2/12/02, Bush’s own 2004 budget tables show that without Bush’s tax and budgetary proposals, the deficit deficit would decline after 2006, but with Bush’s proposals the deficit would grow indefinitely.


    Bush On:No Child Left Behind
    “This administration is committed to your effort. And with the support of Congress, we will continue to work to provide the resources school need to fund the era of reform.” – Bush, 1/8/03


    Bush Reality: The President’s 2003 budget – the first education budget after he signed and touted the No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB) - proposed to cut NCLB programs by $90 million overall, leaving these programs more than $7 billion short of what was authorized under the bill. Bush’s 2004 budget for NCLB is just 1.9% above what he proposed in 2003 - $619 less than needed to offset inflation.



    Bush On:Veterans


    “Having been here and seeing the care that these troops get is comforting for me and Laura. We are -- should and must provide the best care for anybody who is willing to put their life in harm's way.” – Bush, 1/17/03


    Bush Reality: Bush's visit came on the same day that the Administration announced it is immediately cutting off access to its health care system approximately 164,000 veterans [W. Post, 1/17/03].


    Bush On: Medicare
    “Within that budget I proposed last night is a substantial increase in Medicare funding of $400 billion on top of what we already spend, over the next 10 years. This is a commitment that America must make to our seniors. A reformed and strengthened Medicare system, plus a healthy dosage of Medicare spending in the budget, will make us say firmly, we fulfilled our promise to the seniors of America.” – Bush, 1/29/03


    Bush Reality: Under Bush’s proposal, there should be a roughly $40 billion increase in Medicare each year for a decade. However, Bush’s 2004 budget proposes just $6 billion – 85% less than what would be needed to meet his goal. Additionally, his budget would leave 67% of the total $400 billion pledge to be spent after 2008. [Bush Budget, pg. 318]



    Bush On: Boys & Girls Clubs
    “I want to thank the Boys & Girls Clubs across the country…The Boys & Girls Club have got a grand history of helping children understand the future is bright for them, as well as any other child in America. Boys & Girls Clubs have been safe havens. They're little beacons of light for children who might not see light. And I want to thank them for their service to the country. Part of the vision for America is that we have a mosaic of all kinds of people providing love and comfort for people who need help.” – Bush, 1/30/03


    Bush's Reality:In his 2002 budget, Bush proposed eliminating all federal funding for the Boys and Girls Club of America. IN his 2003 budget, he proposed cutting the program by 15% (from $70 million down to $60 million).

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    What he says and does are two different things. Its hard to argue with facts.

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    I dont see any Bush supporters coming to his rescue?

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    i dont see how anyone could argue with that....its plain fact.

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    It's because we are tired of teaching special education classes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1victor
    It's because we are tired of teaching special education classes!
    Are you refering to teaching George Bush how to pronounce words?

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    No one is coming to talk about Bush because no one wants to dignify you with a response. All you do is engage in mindless Bush-bashing and offer no conclusive evidence........... I mean really we are all sick of hearing about how mch you hate him....blah blah blah... he ownes slaves.... blah blah blah..... Grow up.

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    i don't dispute those items, politics is full of these types of things. what you fail to point out is the list of kerry flip flops, lies and misleading statements would require all of the bandwith of this server to list. the question isn't if one side has a list about the other, its which list is longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdawg21
    All you do is engage in mindless Bush-bashing and offer no conclusive evidence............
    OK I just quoted him and then posted his actions. Yeah thats not conclusive evidence. I feel sorry for you guys. I bet if you $hit yourself and everyone told you it stunk you would say I need conclusive evidence.

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    See there you go..... you fail to make a point then you start bashing people.....
    You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdawg21
    See there you go..... you fail to make a point then you start bashing people.....
    You catch more flies with honey than you do with vinager.
    Well I am not trying to catch flies or sway anyone, I just posted facts aka conclusive evidence that Bush is a liar too, however his lies arent little white lies, he doesnt want people that fought for his freedom to have health care.

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    I cant believe I wasted a few minutes of my life reading this..... you have basically stolen my time with this useless ad hominum banter...... we are all dumber for having read this........

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdawg21
    I cant believe I wasted a few minutes of my life reading this..... you have basically stolen my time with this useless ad hominum banter...... we are all dumber for having read this........
    OK Now you are making no sense. Hey if you want to vote for a guy that dosent want veterans to have health care and childrens hospitols to have the best funding possible, be my guest this is America you can do that.

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    so your non partisan huh?

    Right......

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdawg21
    so your non partisan huh?

    Right......
    Well at some pint even non-partisan people have to make a choice dont they?

    I am voting republican for mayor and Lt. Governor. Also a couple city council members that are on the republican card may get my vote. So yes I am non-partisan.

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    I notice that republicans are always defending their political leader..... and democrats are always putting down the republican leader they never say how great their leader is they just want anyone but bush.. talk about saying one thing and doing another john kerry is the flip flopping master.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickrizz
    I notice that republicans are always defending their political leader..... and democrats are always putting down the republican leader they never say how great their leader is they just want anyone but bush.. talk about saying one thing and doing another john kerry is the flip flopping master.
    No republicans attack Kerry??????


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    most attack kerry after bush is being ripped to shreads 24/7 and i mean in general also not just here, on radio/tv/newspapers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    Bush On:Veterans


    “Having been here and seeing the care that these troops get is comforting for me and Laura. We are -- should and must provide the best care for anybody who is willing to put their life in harm's way.” – Bush, 1/17/03


    Bush Reality: Bush's visit came on the same day that the Administration announced it is immediately cutting off access to its health care system approximately 164,000 veterans [W. Post, 1/17/03].
    I just can't believe any red blooded American would vote for someone that would spit in a veterans face and take his life saving health care away. I mean do you guys hate veterans?

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    hey loz, even though we may disagree on politics i still always enjoy reading your posts. i can respect anyone who takes a stand for something they believe in, even if i may disagree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by max-it
    hey loz, even though we may disagree on politics i still always enjoy reading your posts. i can respect anyone who takes a stand for something they believe in, even if i may disagree with them.
    Yeah I feel the same way. Actually I don't like changing peoples minds, debating is fun. I just love competition in anything. kdawg must of gave up, thats ashamed he was a formidible foe for a little bit.

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    What you fail to post is all the other things attached to the bills he veto'd. Polotics in general are way out of control, with no system of checks and balances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdawg21
    No one is coming to talk about Bush because no one wants to dignify you with a response. All you do is engage in mindless Bush-bashing and offer no conclusive evidence........... I mean really we are all sick of hearing about how mch you hate him....blah blah blah... he ownes slaves.... blah blah blah..... Grow up.

    Seriously I cant agree more. It really is like teaching special ed.
    Thread after thread about Bush, conspiracies, Iraq, etc. Its played out. Go back to the steroid and workout forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickrizz
    I notice that republicans are always defending their political leader..... and democrats are always putting down the republican leader they never say how great their leader is they just want anyone but bush.. talk about saying one thing and doing another john kerry is the flip flopping master.

    I got dragged in again.
    There is a new nuclear waste facility being put in a couple hundred miles north of Vegas and Kerry is NOW saying he opposes the site and will stop it if elected. Bush thought it was funny cause Kerry voted FOR IT about four times.

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    i thank you

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    who cares?? We can yap all we want and it really won't change anything. We of all people should be buds......but here's a couple of idiots(Bush and Kerry)who have NOTHING in common with us causing dissention. I bet if we all got together in a room we'd like each other......and we let a couple of idiot politicians cause a big ruckus......and the two parties THRIVE on this dissention.......along with the media.
    Look at how the media creates tension in the family and between neighbors....how many fights do you have with your kids or parents over movies and music?? It's crazy guys......they want us to fight and hate......it sells more media.......and it is SO totally wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermich
    It really is like teaching special ed.



    Seriously Loz, you need to find something to do on these boards besides bash Bush. You often bring him up in other threads and then start bashing people when they refute you.....it gets annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UrbanLegend
    it gets annoying.
    Then close you eyes.

    Well the good news is I am packing and will be gone a week, so have a blast giving Bush head online. Remember, dont swallow until the second date.

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    Loz.....have a good trip dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    OK I just quoted him and then posted his actions. Yeah thats not conclusive evidence. I feel sorry for you guys. I bet if you $hit yourself and everyone told you it stunk you would say I need conclusive evidence.
    wow.. lets see.. here are some of kerry's..



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    Quote Originally Posted by Lozgod
    Then close you eyes.

    Well the good news is I am packing and will be gone a week, so have a blast giving Bush head online. Remember, dont swallow until the second date.

    Again, you are just flaming someone who disagrees with you. I am not some blind supporter of Bush......it seems to be you that giving Kerry the blow jobs. I will always admit that Bush has his faults and I don't feel the need to constantly bring up Kerry's.......but its always the same with you, bashing Bush and flaming. I'm done. Trying to get you to entertain any ideas that Michael Moore doesn't endorse is like talking to a retard.....coincidence? I think not
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    Quote Originally Posted by kdawg21
    No one is coming to talk about Bush because no one wants to dignify you with a response. All you do is engage in mindless Bush-bashing and offer no conclusive evidence........... I mean really we are all sick of hearing about how mch you hate him....blah blah blah... he ownes slaves.... blah blah blah..... Grow up.
    I do agree to some extent, the bush bashing is really annoying and on the same level as the relentless kerry is a flip flop and didn't serve in nam or whatever crap.

    However, the issues are important, if you're voting for bush, its important to know what type of things he has and hasn't supported. I'll never figure out why veterans support bush when he slashes their benefits so much.

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    **** man he does bring up some really good valid points man.

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