View Poll Results: Is Fox News, for the most part, fair, accurate, and balanced?
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Fox News is an arm of the republican party
Fox News is very bias and unbalanced.
Fox News is slightly Bias and unfair.
Fox News is straight info, very accurate, and in general trustworthy.
This poll is extreemely biased and is like asking "how many times Fox employees abuse children?"
Thread: Is Fox 'Fair and Balanced'?
08-19-2004, 12:14 PM #1
Is Fox 'Fair and Balanced'?
I'm just curious to see how many ppl consider Fox News a fair and balanced source of news and informations, and generally non-bias. I myself consider TV in general to be a poor source of info, but I would like to hear what others have to say before making further comments.
08-19-2004, 12:18 PM #2
I don't think any "news" source is fair and balanced. They are not supposed to but both sides have their own agendas that they try to push.
08-19-2004, 12:24 PM #3
obviously a liberally biased poll....so i guess if fox news is an arm for the republican party....then cbs, nbc, abc, and cnn must all be arms for the libs...now thats what i call fair and balanced.
08-19-2004, 12:57 PM #4
fox is more conservative than most news, but most are liberal as hell
08-19-2004, 01:03 PM #5
The only reason Liberals dont like FOX NEWS is because they actually speak of the positive things the Republicans are doing and Negative things that the Democrates are doing. I watch CNN Headline News as well just to see if the mention the same things FOX NEWS does. Not even close. Nobody is use to a News station that actually tells both sides of the story. Here one great example.
I was talking to Tock the other day and mentioned that When the ACLU demanded that Los Angeles take the cross off the city seal, but didnt mind that the biggest picture in the seal was a picture a Pagan Goddess of harvest. Tock didnt know what I was talking about and he seems to keep up on things. How many of you heard on your liberal news station that the ACLU was biased only towards the christian symbol and not the Pagan one???????
08-19-2004, 02:12 PM #6
BBC is the way to go......
08-19-2004, 02:15 PM #7
No its not fair and balanced, but then again neither is the New York Times.......
BBC.......... militant liberals....... thats like a volvo with a gun rack......
08-19-2004, 02:21 PM #8Originally Posted by kdawg21
08-19-2004, 02:44 PM #9
That was a good one Kdog!!!!!
08-19-2004, 03:42 PM #10
The BBC and the CBC have far more balanced coverage than ANY American network. In Canada, being a multicultural cesspool, we get all the channels (CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, BBC, CBC, Mexican News, France news, etc, ect). How much time do you spend watching foreign televison or reading foreign magazines? If you are the typical American, I would bet none. As an interesting sidenote, I posted some articles from an extremely objective magazine (the Economist; UK) on steroid use in the Olympics to show that not all media fails to objectively look at the issue. Let me know when Tom Brokaw stands up and goes to bat for freedom to use steroids , or at the very least provides a semi-intelligent, unbiased piece on the subject. Why do you insist on calling anyone who has a viewpoint different than your own a miliatant liberal or some other derogatory epithet?
Originally Posted by kdawg21
08-19-2004, 03:55 PM #11Banned
Originally Posted by biglouie250
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in the uk we can buy digital sattelite it shows nearly channels from all over the world and you can see news from all over the world.
it has dedicated news channels showing nearly 24 hourse a day like fox news,cnn,bbc 24, itv news 24, sky news 24,(c)nbc,bloomburg,euronews,chinese news (cant rember the name) , al jezera, abu dubai etc....
and also shows news from south asia(pakistan, india, bagladesh) in ARY,zeetv,PTV etc..
i can honestly tell you that foxnews sucks.
i know most americans can't get the channels we get and if the want good news they should check out stuff like reuters,afp and af becuase fox news basically just rips these news stories from these news sources and gives them the "fox news twist".
08-19-2004, 04:02 PM #12
Have anyone heard of NWI???? I like to hear if anyone on here likes watching that news station.
08-19-2004, 05:25 PM #13Originally Posted by nickrizz
08-19-2004, 08:01 PM #14
I too am a fan of the BBC and the CBC for news...
I like my news source unbiased and unafiliated to any poltical party.
08-19-2004, 08:36 PM #15
I have news for you oversaturated, semi-educated knaves.......
THEY ARE ALL BIASED!
Have a nice day.
08-19-2004, 09:11 PM #16Originally Posted by Red Ketchup
Do you ever listen to what they say, or do you just look at the hot chicks? I gotta admit some of those anchors are pretty hot though.
08-19-2004, 11:42 PM #17Originally Posted by nickrizz
08-19-2004, 11:48 PM #18
I'll jump in for a sec before going to bed, its amazing how many media watch dog groups are out there, here's one that i found.
I've already found some interesting articles there, but I'll wait and see what others find first.
Another good one is www.spinsanity.com , look at a story you see on fox, and then check the same story on a web site like this. Usually the only way to find out how bias something like fox is, is to look at a few different sources and views on that story to get the whole picture.
Last edited by saboudian; 08-19-2004 at 11:55 PM.
08-20-2004, 07:14 AM #19Banned
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there not a government puppet like fox news.
they even challenged the goverment over the iraqi wmd reports and the hutton enquiry which was about the death of Dr David Kelly.
just becuase bbc is state run does not mean it is a puppet to the state.
thats why the bbc is one of the most respected news agency & tv channel in the world.
the reson why most americans dont like it is becuase most americans are used to foxnews and if there is anyother opinion then foxnews most americans always consider it becuase the other news channels are biased and "liberal". infact i have even heard most foxnews puppets in american call reuters biased.
it funny becuase fox news just rips international storys from reuters and gives it the "fox news twist".
08-20-2004, 11:54 AM #20Originally Posted by physio_sport
2. Don't ever trust a state run news agency, no matter what the public perception of them is.
3. All news stations "rip" stories from Reuters and the AP.
08-20-2004, 12:58 PM #21
You people can say what you want about Fox News... but the fact still remains in the ratings world they are beateing the mess out of every other news agency, I guess that means they are doing something right....... or perhaps people are just sick of state run news agencies and incorrect liberal propaganda.
08-20-2004, 01:27 PM #22
its not a state run agency FYI, it survives becasue of government grants. It is a cooperation. The BBC is established under Royal Charter. The current Charter runs until 2006. A separate Agreement, accompanying the Charter, recognises the BBC's editorial independence and sets out its public obligations.
08-20-2004, 01:40 PM #23
IMO Fox is no better or worse than any other American news.
You guys seem confuse funding source with objective reporting. Forget about where it's funding comes from (because this debate essentially splits into a: publicly funded is biased in favour of or against of the current administration and privately funded is a slave to big advertising $$$ or represents the view of politically active majority owners like Ted Turner) and ask yourself if the majority of the stories attempt to provide a fair and balanced case about a given issue. Are editorials presented in a light which clearly separate fact and opinion? An excellent example of this in US news is Andy Rooney, he blantantly states that his ideas are just that, his ideas, and necessarliy how things really are or ought to be.
Originally Posted by kdawg21
08-20-2004, 02:13 PM #24
"I said on my program, if, if the Americans go in and overthrow Saddam Hussein and it's clean, he has nothing, I will apologize to the nation, and I will not trust the Bush administration again."
- Bill O'Reilly, on ABC's Good Morning America, 03-18-03
08-20-2004, 05:59 PM #25Originally Posted by kdawg21
Thats because for a long time us conservative voters didnt have nothing to watch for years that even focused on the things we where intrested in.
08-21-2004, 01:11 AM #26
I really wish some one would look at www.fair.org, as it solves some of the questions that are being asked. Fox gets better ratings, but CNN has more viewers for example.
I'll just post this tidbit as I think it shows an interesting trend.
33 percent of Fox News viewers incorrectly believed it was true that the U.S. has found Iraqi weapons of mass destruction; only 11 percent of people who said they relied on PBS or NPR for news got this wrong. Thirty-five percent of the Fox viewers thought that world opinion favored the U.S. invasion of Iraq; only 5 percent of those who get their news from PBS or NPR had this misconception. And an overwhelming 67 percent of those who relied on Fox thought that the U.S. had found clear evidence that Saddam Hussein had worked closely with Al Qaeda; if you got your news from PBS/NPR, you had just a 16 percent chance of believing this falsehood.
I'll argue more another day, but leave it at that for tonite.
Cycleon- Why is this poll bias? Do you think I should have posted a couple options to see if anyone really thought fox was liberal?
08-21-2004, 08:17 PM #27Originally Posted by saboudian
08-21-2004, 08:53 PM #28Originally Posted by 50%Natural
The other thing that scares me about fox is how they mix facts in with their opinions as they present the news, and its so dangerous because they're not telling ppl the actual story, but fox's own version.
They take things out of context all the time. They kept reporting that Kerry wanted to fight the war on terror more 'sensitively', which was way out of context, but whats interesting is that bush also said he wanted to fight the war on terror sensitively, and they didn't criticize bush for it.
Another thing that bothers me is that they show just complete crap sometimes with absolutely no substance, in "Outfoxed" there's clips of various ppl on fox saying "Kerry looks French", this is just wrong.
In "outfoxed", they also show memos that are sent out every day to the hosts, and tell them what to report, such as the "kerry looks french" story.
So 50%, if it was just a conservative view, it wouldn't bother me, but its the way things are spun that is upsetting. The only way to see if something is spun is to look at several different versions of the story, from very different sources, and once you start doing that its alot easier to spot out alot of the misinterpretations that fox gives.
08-21-2004, 09:27 PM #29AR-Hall of Famer / Retired
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Fox News is very biased in its opinions and unbalanced in its coverage
Fox News is slightly Biased in its opinions and while giving time to both sides, generally provides a little more coverage of a certain point of view
Fox News is generally objective in its opinions and tries to provides coverage to both sides of the issues
Fox News is like most media outlets in that they report relatively objectively but are most focused on presenting a story that viewers will watch
that is a real poll - what you did isnt even a bad hack job of a push poll - you are not asking if they are "fair" or "trustworthy" or "accurate" except in the box where you want to lead them and your own bias screams out in the poll itself - thats fine of course, as long as you dont represent teh results as news
08-21-2004, 09:35 PM #30Originally Posted by saboudian
But, no doubt that fox may run things different(ratings are the main thing in decisions to air of course), but it is all about perception. I mean, look at the media spin on the rodney king crap or the OJ simpson stuff...if that isn't liberal media at its finest I don't know what would be. However, to some blacks or liberal minded people, the coverage of those instances would be viewed as unbiased and telling it like it is. Honestly, it is all about perception and the learned values and ideas that we have all come to grasp through those who sourround us. So a spin to you, may seem like nothing more than a blatant fact to another.
08-21-2004, 10:01 PM #31Originally Posted by 50%Natural
08-22-2004, 01:46 AM #32Originally Posted by CYCLEON
08-22-2004, 01:51 AM #33Originally Posted by nickrizz
08-22-2004, 02:12 AM #34Originally Posted by 50%Natural
I'm not so much talking about spin, but the way fox presents the coverage. I mean when would it be appopriate to see a headline that said "Kerry looks French". I think its also going to be interested looking at their coverage of the RNC vs DNC coverage. I could go on, but if you just look at any of the media watch dogs, www.fair.org for example, or check out the movie "outfoxed", it starts to become evident that its not just merely a conservative view. The statistics on fox viewers is amazing, there is so much disinformation that fox viewers are actually getting the wrong news and beleiving it, the fact that so many fox viewers beleive that Iraq was linked to 9/11 is just astounding, this shouldn't happen in any media, but they constantly distort the truth. I ran into one of my friends from high school, and we started talking about politics, and he just kept talking over me, and he kept streaming this line of just BS, his facts were just all wrong, its one thing if its our views are different, but another if you're using false facts to back your statements, and he bought into everything fox news does, and thinks ppl are just upset about fox because its a conservative news org, and ppl can't handle that. There's no way you can win an arguement with a person like that.
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08-22-2004, 02:27 AM #35
Well, you know why you can't disagree with me...I never disagreed with you in the first place anyway, I really don't need watch groups or any other 3rd party source to explain things the way they are to me as I have made it perfectly clear in previous posts that I understand why things are the way they are. As I posted, education in certain matters makes a world of difference in deciding and figuring out what is legit and what is not. I don't ever watch fox news nor really any other news station as of late so what they report makes no difference to me. I merely read cnn news, whether it is bias or not, and figure things out for myself. It is a pitty that more people can't do that themselves but like I said, it really is all about perception.
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