08-31-2004, 08:43 AM #1
Rabbi calls for annihilation of Arabs
The spiritual leader of Israel's ultra-orthodox Shas party, Rabbi Ovadia Yosef, has provoked outrage with a sermon calling for the annihilation of Arabs.
"It is forbidden to be merciful to them. You must send missiles to them and annihilate them. They are evil and ****able," he was quoted as saying in a sermon delivered on Monday to mark the Jewish festival of Passover.
Rabbi Yosef is one of the most powerful religious figures in Israel, He is known for his outspoken comments and has in the past referred to the Arabs as "vipers".
Through his influence over Shas, Israel's third largest political party, he is also a significant political figure.
As founder and spiritual leader of the political party Shas, Rabbi Yosef is held in almost saintly regard by hundreds of thousands of Jews of Middle Eastern and North African origin.
The Palestinian Authority has condemned the sermon as racist and is calling on international organisations to treat the rabbi as a war criminal.
Rabbi Yosef said in his sermon that enemies have tried to hurt the Jewish people from the time of the exodus from Egypt to this day.
"The Lord shall return the Arabs' deeds on their own heads, waste their seed and exterminate them, devastate them and vanish them from this world," he said.
Shas spokesman, Yitzhaq Suderi defended the rabbi, saying his remarks referred only to "Arab murderers and terrorists" and not the Arab people as a whole.
08-31-2004, 08:44 AM #2
Oh those peaceful, victimized, innocent jews, getting pounded on by Arab extremist leaders.
08-31-2004, 08:54 AM #3
It's about time someone spoke back on their side. I love it, they want to call him a criminal. You should be considered a criminal too Caucasion with all the hate mongering you spew out. You are definately working on a double standard.
08-31-2004, 08:56 AM #4
You my friend, arent following the teaching of Jesus.
Finally? This was in April 2001.
And this kind of extremist Garbage has been going on for 4000 years.
08-31-2004, 09:02 AM #5
extremism on both sides tho. thats why we should not care.....
08-31-2004, 09:08 AM #6
Caucasian, in your opinion the teaching of Jesus would have Americans all dead, that is not the teaching of Jesus. To be lambs for the slaughter.
08-31-2004, 09:12 AM #7Originally Posted by 1victor
08-31-2004, 09:17 AM #8
Not in circumstances with people such as yourself who share your thinking. If you considered us your enemy we would turn the other cheeck and you would cut our throat. Just because we are Christians doesn't mean that we aren't allowed to fend off our enemies. It is a weak argument on you part.
08-31-2004, 09:20 AM #9Originally Posted by 1victor
Basically, you take Jesus's teachings when you want to, and when you dont want to, you dont.
That really doesnt make sense. Either do it or dont.
08-31-2004, 09:24 AM #10
Nice WEAK point. If you would have your way you would take OUR religion and turn it against us to be slaughtered. Do you realize how retarded that is? I see you didn't deny that you would cut our throats because you know you would.
Christians are not hypocrits for not letting YOU PEOPLE kill us, sorry about your luck.
08-31-2004, 09:29 AM #11
Then Christian teaching are flawed, which proves my point.
08-31-2004, 09:42 AM #12
How about this unChristian saying **** YOU! The book you guys read from is a piece of this and a piece of that, what ever suits you at the time to prove your point. Typical garbage out of liars and theives mouths. I am not going to sit here and let you spit out your I'm so superior crap, it's Bullsh*t and I'm sick of it. I don't care if I get banned you muslim extremists are ****in*ng nuts, sociopathic retards. No wonder you still live in the stone ages.
You serve no purpose on this board except to stir up sh*t. Go find another board that believes your self serving crap. IMO over the last few weeks this whole board has turned into a sh*t heap because of you and a couple of other morons. I know many many people that feel the same way. One rotten apple spoils the whole barrel.
08-31-2004, 09:44 AM #13
Am I stirring stuff up, or is it you?
Actually keep your word, and PLEASE dont debate Muslims on this site. Cause you like the post above, make yourself look like a fool.
08-31-2004, 09:47 AM #14
**** off dickhead. You don't realize that the vast majority see your posts for what they are, B.S. and see you as a joke. Everytime you post something with your cronies you are the joke. I am sick of you poisoning this board with your crap.
08-31-2004, 09:47 AM #15Originally Posted by 1victor
Every civilized person on this board agrees with you whole heartedly, but you are only playing into the hand of this misguided cretin. If we all just ignore them perhaps they will just go away.
08-31-2004, 09:49 AM #16
The truth hurts. And it hurts for you to see the other side. You would like to see only one side. You would love to see a forum that bashes Muslims and others without some kind of rebuttal.
That is your idea of a good board. I think your posts make no sense, a good example are the last two posts.
A person getting that mad over an argument and a discussion on a internet message board. That is simply hilarious.
08-31-2004, 09:52 AM #17
I have stayed out of this for three weeks but you serve no purpose here. How many other areas have you posted on? How many other forums? NONE. This is some sort of political platform for you, how's that for stupid. I hope they find you in NJ because you certainly don't belong in this country.
08-31-2004, 09:55 AM #18Originally Posted by 1victor
My father is a diplomat, and honestly, no one can do anything to me, with my fathers diplomatic status.
On the last week of September I will be traveling to Finland. America is not my home, its just a job.
08-31-2004, 09:55 AM #19Originally Posted by 1victor
It's a hard pill to swallow isn't it?
08-31-2004, 09:57 AM #20
i sure as $hit can do something to you......... give me an addy, ill have some people in dump trucks roll up on your lawn. or maybe you dont know who runs the carting and waste management businesses?
08-31-2004, 09:57 AM #21Originally Posted by Badgerman
08-31-2004, 09:59 AM #22Originally Posted by biglouie250
I got some friends in Ippolito Garbage disposal services. Ask about Giofree Ippolito and tell him a Chechan sent you, he will give you discounts.
08-31-2004, 10:00 AM #23
I won't listen to rhetoric by two nonbelievers, sorry Badger. If that were the case there would be no more Christians, not what God intended IMO.
Caucasian, exactly my point! You know nothing about fitness or lifting and "claim" to read fitness and nutrition threads ( I doubt that) your point here is to debate politics not learn about AS or fitness. That's okay because this board is slipping into the toilet because of people such as yourself. All the members with good standing and knowledge are preparing to jump ship anyway.
08-31-2004, 10:00 AM #24
08-31-2004, 10:04 AM #25
Big Louie, I got so many Italian friend in Jersey, its not even funny, some claim to be from the mafia, but I doubt it.
They respect me, and when I talk about my Islamic stuff they usually tell me to shutup.
The call me a guido cause of the way I dress sometimes. But in general Italians dont scare me. In fact alot of my good friends are typical Gudios from New Jersey.
My best friend in America is a Muslim Italian guy from Sicily.
Last edited by CAUSASIAN; 08-31-2004 at 10:06 AM.
08-31-2004, 10:05 AM #26Retired Vet
Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
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Its sad that this idiot takes this stance against Arabs, its sad that it gives you ammo to use here. But without too much effort do you think I couldn't find a dozen Muslim Clerics calling for our annihilation?.
08-31-2004, 10:07 AM #27Originally Posted by BOUNCER
08-31-2004, 10:10 AM #28Retired Vet
- Join Date
- Nov 2001
I agree too, we've had it here in Ireland for long enough. Thankfully we're celebrating the 10th anniversary of the IRA ceasefire here today. Ten years ago they took the Armalite out of the ballot box.
08-31-2004, 10:11 AM #29Originally Posted by 1victor
at all because people see through hypocrisy.
Realize this is a much different martyrdom than we see with the murderers that kill themselves through a terrorist act.....
08-31-2004, 10:32 AM #30
Badger, How is it that God would ask a people to let themseles be slaughtered, for what purpose? I didn't want to get into religion but our faith also says that we are to be wittnesses of Christ and to preach The Gospel, I believe that self preservation is necessary to do that. How could we witness if we were an extinct religious faith?
"Gee remeber those Christians?" This is a way for people to twist things and make it appear that it is hypocritical to defend ones own life. It does not hold water if you contend that God wants us all to prosper.
Qur'an facts: The Qur'an is said to have been dictated to Muhammad over a twenty treee year period by the Holy Spirit the Archaengel Gabriel. However the Qur'an identifies the Holy Spirit promised by Jesus in John 14 as Muhammad.
Muhammad married an eleven year old child Aishah
Sura 4:34 allows men to beat their wives to "return them to obedience"
A few nuggets from the "good book"
I need to study this atrocitie more closely.
08-31-2004, 10:41 AM #31Originally Posted by 1victor
Look at the early Christians that were slaughtered in the Colisseums.
They just took it and the rest kept the faith and pressed on.
That is why Christianity survived at all......without the radical faith displayed
by the early believers it would have faded into oblivion.
That is why the way is narrow that leads to life......and few enter.
I'm not trying to aggravate you......but reconciling rabid nationalism and Christianity is virtually impossible without gutting the faith.
08-31-2004, 10:46 AM #32
Y'know, 1Victor, if this sort of discussion works on your one last nerve, then maybe you ought to take a vacation . . .
Not everyone is going to look at things the same way you do, and if you have the idea that somehow everybody should agree with you, then you're destined for disappointment and frustration.
08-31-2004, 10:53 AM #33
Badger I understand what you are saying and I agree that it was faith alone that sustained the religion but I disagree with being laughtered for the sake of making a point, that's not much better than commiting suicide. I will need to talk to one of the pastors of my church on this one. I'm sure it is an argument that is made often and there is an appropriate response that may make sense to you. Thanks for helping me to take the tone down on this. I am not a fanatic about anything and fanatics are unreasonable people. I am not a rabbid nationalist but I am for my country and against those who are against me.
I do not profess to be a saint or above others or sin free, I never have.
08-31-2004, 11:00 AM #34
Tock, I'm surprised at that statement from you. I think I've demonstrated that I don't crave for everyone to agree with me. I could care less. Someone kicking up sh*t for the case of just kicking up sh*t is a nuisance.
As far as this getting on my nerve yes it is because this guy is here for one purpose only. To argue for Muslims and denounce Christians and Jews . Jews because they are Jews and Christians because they support them. Please look at one of my posts and tell me where I started a thread about Palestine, the Arabs or any muslim nation in a hateful manner. I may have responded to hate mail but I never instigate it.
08-31-2004, 11:08 AM #35Originally Posted by 1victor
So, ok, fine. You disagree with what he has to say. Speak your peace and leave it at that.
You can get upset about it, lose sleep, go prematurely gray, get wrinkles and an ulcer from it all, but that's not going to do you any good, and it won't change anyone's opinion. "Hey guys, look at how intensely I reply to xxxxxx!" you may be thinking, but nobody really gives a rat's ass. Either you speak persuasively to the issue, or you can holler and shout. It's your choice, do what you like. You're a good guy though, and I hate to see you get upset over something as unimportant as an internet discussion.
08-31-2004, 11:16 AM #36
Causasian is right. Technically Christians are suppose to be Meek people. They shouldnt fight, They will take an ass beating to proove a point. But if you study the Christian religion you will relize what it means to be a Christian ( Christ Like). If you follow the New Testament ( New Covenent) to the letter you will become a missionary!! That is the lifestyle of a christian. You cant even justify having nice things and be a christian.
When Jesus teaches about turning the other cheek and such. He is using that as a way for his people to show their faith to the Gentiles.
But also for Causasian if he wants to follow someone elses god he might want to look into the original religion.
08-31-2004, 11:18 AM #37
Tock , good points I sincerely take them to heart. I will leave this forum once again having broken my vow. Thanks for calling me out.
08-31-2004, 11:20 AM #38Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
i never said i was in the mafia..... nor do i condone anything they do i just said give me an addy and i can do somethin to you....... you should keep your religion to yourself because it is BS you picked the wrong one.
08-31-2004, 11:41 AM #39Originally Posted by biglouie250
08-31-2004, 11:46 AM #40Originally Posted by 1victor
Muhammad married an eleven year old child Aishah
Is is said that Maryam was 12 to 14 years old when she gave birth to Jesus. And since Joseph wasnt the father. GOD felt it was ok for a 12 - 14 year old to have the "son of god"
Please Please Please dont make me bring out the atriocites done to both women and man in the first and second testaments.
Cause I know hundreds.
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