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    Haha, we're cooler than the libs

    You guys can have Barbara Streisand....we have Arnold!

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    Yeah but they have Christian rockers lol and country 'stars' performing at the convention. That's pretty sad IMO. The only star the GOP has, granted he's not your average celeb, is Arnold.

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    chicamahomico no disrespect my friend, but Ill take Arnold over the Dixie chick and some religious rock anytime. But just to equal out the floor here are some guests to the convention:

    National Anthem sung by the Central Baptist Choir
    Sara Evans performs
    Brooks and Dunn perform

    Its gonna be a rockin good time, Yeeehaaa....

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    I'm not sure what you're saying but the Repubs entertainment sucks. Other than some southern bible thumpers, who would listen to this crap? Brooks and Dunn? LOL.......why don't they just get Ted Nugent up there? Now that would be cool.

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    chicamahomico no disrespect my friend, but Ill take Arnold over the Dixie chick and some religious rock anytime. But just to equal out the floor here are some guests to the convention:

    National Anthem sung by the Central Baptist Choir
    Sara Evans performs
    Brooks and Dunn perform

    Its gonna be a rockin good time, Yeeehaaa....

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    Ted Nugent I believe is a Republican so why not?!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chicamahomico
    I'm not sure what you're saying but the Repubs entertainment sucks. Other than some southern bible thumpers, who would listen to this crap? Brooks and Dunn? LOL.......why don't they just get Ted Nugent up there? Now that would be cool.
    Yes I was being sarcastic, Yes the entertainment sucks, and Yes Ted would be very cool.

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    Interesting to see how far to the left the republicans had to be to get a governor. Arnold is probably closer to being liberal than conservative, pro-gay rights, pro-choice,....

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    Quote Originally Posted by saboudian
    Interesting to see how far to the left the republicans had to be to get a governor. Arnold is probably closer to being liberal than conservative, pro-gay rights, pro-choice,....
    Go watch this video before you ever make such a rediculous statement again. And there's more to being a republican besides being pro-gay marraige (which he is not), and pro-choice (which many republicans are). Republicans, unlike democrats, are allowed and even encouraged to disagree with each other on social issues.

    During the 68 presedential race, Arnold heard the Nixon / Humphrey debate on the radio. He asked his friend which party Nixon was; answer Republican, afterwhich he stated that he was a republican.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,131185,00.html
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    Arnold has said he would give the ppl the right to decide for gay marriage, ie election. Thats not a typical anti-gay stance.

    The platform of the republican party is pro-life, but you wouldn't be able to figure that out from their ridiculous lineup of convention speakers who really don't represent the core values of the republican party.

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    The video wasn't working for me.....Here is a transcript of Arnold's speech just in case it doesn't work for other people. I missed watching it, but I loved reading it.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5879467/

    Edit: I better post it in case they take the link down at some point:

    What a greeting! This is like winning an Oscar! ...As if I would know! Speaking of acting, one of my movies was called “True Lies.” It’s what the Democrats should have called their convention.

    My fellow Americans, this is an amazing moment for me. To think that a once-scrawny boy from Austria could grow up to become Governor of California and stand in Madison Square Garden to speak on behalf of the President of the United States that is an immigrant’s dream. It is the American dream.

    I was born in Europe ...and I’ve traveled all over the world. I can tell you that there is no place, no country, more compassionate – more generous – more accepting – and more welcoming than the United States of America.

    As long as I live, I will never forget that day 21 years ago – when I raised my hand and took the oath of citizenship.

    Do you know how proud I was? I was so proud that I walked around with an American flag around my shoulders all day long.

    Tonight, I want to talk about why I’m even more proud to be an American -why I’m proud to be a Republican – and why I believe this country is in good hands.

    When I was a boy, the Soviets occupied part of Austria. I saw their tanks in the streets .I saw communism with my own eyes. I remember the fear we had when we had to cross into the Soviet sector. Growing up, we were told, “Don’t look the soldiers in the eye.

    Look straight ahead.” It was a common belief that Soviet soldiers could take a man out of his own car and ship him off to the Soviet Union as slave labor.

    My family didn’t have a car -- but one day we were in my uncle’s car. It was near dark as we came to a Soviet checkpoint. I was a little boy, I wasn’t an action hero back then, and I remember how scared I was that the soldiers would pull my father or my uncle out of the car, and I’d never see him again. My family and so many others lived in fear of the Soviet boot. Today, the world no longer fears the Soviet Union – and it is because of the United States of America! As a kid I saw the socialist country that Austria became after the Soviets left. I love Austria and I love the Austrian people - but I always knew America was the place for me.

    In school, when the teacher would talk about America, I would daydream about coming here. I would sit for hours watching American movies – transfixed by my heroes like John Wayne. Everything about America seemed so big to me – so open, so possible.

    I finally arrived here in 1968.I had empty pockets, but I was full of dreams. The presidential campaign was in full swing. I remember watching the Nixon and Humphrey presidential race on TV. A friend who spoke German and English, translated for me. I heard Humphrey saying things that sounded like socialism – which is what I had just left.

    But then I heard Nixon speak. He was talking about free enterprise, getting government off your back, lowering taxes, and strengthening the military. Listening to Nixon speak sounded more like a breath of fresh air.

    I said to my friend, “What party is he?” My friend said, “He’s a Republican.” I said, “Then I am a Republican!” And I’ve been a Republican ever since! And trust me, in my wife’s family, that’s no small achievement! I’m proud to belong to the party of Abraham Lincoln, the party of Teddy Roosevelt, the party of Ronald Reagan – and the party of George W. Bush.

    To my fellow immigrants listening tonight, I want you to know how welcome you are in this party. We Republicans admire your ambition. We encourage your dreams. We believe in your future. One thing I learned about America is that if you work hard and play by the rules, this country is truly open to you. You can achieve anything.

    Everything I have – my career – my success – my family –I owe to America. In this country, it doesn’t make any difference where you were born. It doesn’t make any difference who your parents were. It doesn’t make any difference if, like me, you couldn’t even speak English until you were in your twenties.

    America gave me opportunities, and my immigrant dreams came true. I want other people to get the same chances I did, the same opportunities. And I believe they can.

    That’s why I believe in this country, that’s why I believe in this party – and that’s why I believe in this President.

    Now, many of you out there tonight are “Republican” like me in your hearts and in your beliefs. Maybe you’re from Guatemala. Maybe you’re from the Philippines. Maybe Europe or the Ivory Coast. Maybe you live in Ohio – Pennsylvania – or New Mexico.

    And maybe – just maybe – you don’t agree with this party on every single issue. I say to you tonight I believe that’s not only okay – that’s what’s great about this country. Here we can respectfully disagree and still be patriotic – still be American – and still be good Republicans My fellow immigrants, my fellow Americans how do you know if you are a Republican? I’ll tell you how.

    If you believe that government should be accountable to the people, not the people to the government...then you are a Republican! If you believe a person should be treated as an individual, not as a member of an interest group... then you are a Republican! If you believe your family knows how to spend your money better than the government does... then you are a Republican! If you believe our educational system should be held accountable for the progress of our children ... then you are a Republican! If you believe this country, not the United Nations, is the best hope of democracy in the world ...

    then you are a Republican! And, ladies and gentlemen ...if you believe we must be fierce and relentless and terminate terrorism ... then you are a Republican! There is another way you can tell you’re a Republican. You have faith in free enterprise, faith in the resourcefulness of the American people ...and faith in the U.S. economy. To those critics who are so pessimistic about our economy, I say: Don’t be economic girlie men! The U.S. economy remains the envy of the world. We have the highest economic growth of any of the world’s major industrialized nations. Don’t you remember the pessimism of twenty years ago – when the critics said Japan and Germany were overtaking the U.S.? Ridiculous! Now they say India and China are overtaking us. Don’t you believe it! We may hit a few BUMPS -- but America always moves ahead! That’s what Americans do! We move prosperity ahead. We move freedom ahead. We move people ahead. Under President Bush, and Vice President Cheney, America’s economy is moving ahead in spite of a recession they inherited and in spite of the attack on our homeland.

    Now, the other party says there are two Americas. Don’t believe that either. I’ve visited our troops in Iraq, Kuwait, Bosnia, Germany, and all over the world. I’ve visited our troops in California, where they train before they go overseas. And I’ve visited our military hospitals. And I can tell you this: Our young men and women in uniform do not believe there are two Americas! They believe we are one America – and they are fighting for it! We are one America - and President Bush is defending it with all his heart and soul! That’s what I admire most about the President. He’s a man of perseverance.

    He’s a man of inner strength. He is a leader who doesn’t flinch, doesn’t waiver, does not back down. My fellow Americans, make no mistake about it – terrorism is more insidious than communism, because it yearns to destroy not just the individual but the entire international order.

    The President didn’t go into Iraq because the polls told him it was popular. As a matter of fact, the polls said just the opposite. But leadership isn’t about polls. It’s about making decisions you think are right and then standing behind those decisions. That’s why America is safer with George W. Bush as President.

    He knows you don’t reason with terrorists. You defeat them. He knows you can’t reason with people blinded by hate. They hate the power of the individual. They hate the progress of women. They hate the religious freedom of others. They hate the liberating breeze of democracy. But, ladies and gentlemen, their hate is no match for America’s decency.

    We’re the America that sends out Peace Corps volunteers to teach village children.

    We’re the America that sends out missionaries and doctors to raise up the poor and the sick. We’re the America that gives more than any other country, to fight aids in Africa and the developing world. And we’re the America that fights not for imperialism but for human rights and democracy.

    You know, When the Germans brought down the Berlin Wall – America’s determination helped wield the sledgehammers. When that lone, young Chinese man stood in front of those tanks in Tiananmen Square – America’s hopes stood with him. And when Nelson Mandela smiled in election victory after all those years in prison America celebrated, too.

    We are still the lamp lighting the world – especially for those who struggle. No matter in what labor camp they slave – no matter in what injustice they’re trapped -- they hear our call ... they see our light ... and they feel the pull of our freedom. They come here – as I did – because they believe. They believe in US.

    They come because their hearts say to them, as mine did, “If only I can get to America.” Someone once wrote -“There are those who say that freedom is nothing but a dream.” They are right. It’s the American dream.

    No matter the nationality, no matter the religion, no matter the ethnic background, America brings out the best in people. And as Governor of the great state of California - - I see the best in Americans every day ... our police, our firefighters – our nurses, doctors and teachers – our parents.

    And what about the extraordinary men and women who have volunteered to fight – for the United States of America! I have such great respect for them and their heroic families.

    Let me tell you about the sacrifice and commitment I’ve seen firsthand. In one of the military hospitals I visited, I met a young guy who was in bad shape. He’d lost a leg – had a hole in his stomach ... his shoulder had been shot through.

    I could tell there was no way he could ever return to combat. But when I asked him, “When do you think you’ll get out of the hospital?” He said, “Sir, in three weeks.” And do you know what he said to me then? He said he was going to get a new leg ... and get some therapy ... and then he was going back to Iraq to serve alongside his buddies! He grinned at me and said, “Arnold ... I’ll be back!” Ladies and gentlemen, America is back! – back from the attack on our homeland- back from the attack on our economy – back from the attack on our way of life. We’re back because of the perseverance, character and leadership of the 43rd President of the United States – George W. Bush.

    My fellow Americans ...I want you to know that I believe with all my heart that America remains “the great idea” that inspires the world. It’s a privilege to be born here. It’s an honor to become a citizen here. It’s a gift to raise your family here – to vote here – and to live here.

    Our president George W. Bush has worked hard to protect and preserve the American dream for all of us. That’s why I say ... send - him - back to Washington for four more years!

    Thank you, America -- and God bless you all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by saboudian
    Arnold has said he would give the ppl the right to decide for gay marriage, ie election. Thats not a typical anti-gay stance.

    The platform of the republican party is pro-life, but you wouldn't be able to figure that out from their ridiculous lineup of convention speakers who really don't represent the core values of the republican party.
    I don't know the facts on this, so if what you say is true, then bc he says he will let the people decide, that makes him pro-gay rights? sorry, but i'm confused how anyone can come to that conclusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremy34
    I don't know the facts on this, so if what you say is true, then bc he says he will let the people decide, that makes him pro-gay rights? sorry, but i'm confused how anyone can come to that conclusion.
    He's avoiding taking a stance. In a very liberal and very gay state like California, it's a wise move.

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    F^ck all the libs, we got Arnold!!!! lol This is a body building website, so that makes us way cooler than the libs, here.

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    You can say what you want. You can say this and that. But my responce everytime will be, we are still cooler b/c we got arnold. The only way you could get your coolness to get to were we are is if you get ronnie colman or something, but you can't so this arguement is over. We are the coolest, end of discusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC78
    He's avoiding taking a stance. In a very liberal and very gay state like California, it's a wise move.
    Actually, he's doing what a politician is SUPPOSED to do and acceding to the will of his constituents. He represents the people of California. If the majority in California vote for Gay Rights legislation, so be it. If not, that's fine too. Of course he has an opinion, but that's what I love about Arnold, he is willing to accept the will of the people he serves. I can't think of too many other politicians like that. Most have their own agendas and once elected will push that agenda even if it is contrary to the opinion of their constituent majority.

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