09-01-2004, 03:34 AM #1Retired Vet
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Update on the Iranian Judoka who refused to play an Israeli..
Remember the Iranian who was terrifief to lose against an Israeli Judoka and withdrew, stating that he was doing so in support of the Palestinian people?.
Here's an update, if this doesn't beat it all
09-01-2004, 05:58 AM #2
It's a shame when politics/relegion works it's way into a world wide sporting event. What ever happened to particapating in the event for pride of country. And it's also unfair that a lot of countries pay there athletes......come to think of it, we don't pay ours do we? I was under the impression it was for amatures and they had to come up with their own funds.
09-01-2004, 07:16 AM #3
Simply retarded, rewarding someone for cowardice and calling it bravery. He could'nt take the chance of losing so he "ran away". I can't wait to see the justification for this nonsense. They don't mind touching a Jew in the course of killing them but they can't touch them in a sporting event. My 02. I won't answer any insults by caucasian etc.. so don't bother trying guys.
09-01-2004, 07:35 AM #4Originally Posted by 1victor
09-01-2004, 07:37 AM #5
by the way i am CONVERT not a born muslim , i was catholic all my life till this year ! ........... just to put it out there i am quite informed about the teachings of the bible n Quran !
09-01-2004, 07:38 AM #6
It has been my belief that when a team or individual injects politics into the games there should be a punishment, preferably ejection from the games. This act of unprecedented cowardess is what it is at face value. Paranoia of being beaten by a Jew, and fear of punishment upon returning home to Iran.
09-01-2004, 07:38 AM #7
Zoab, I'm sure you have valuable insight. Thanks.
09-01-2004, 11:34 AM #8
I honestly don't believe this fellow wanted to withdraw, IMO he was in a position where he had to. Elite athetes train their whole lives for an event and the Olympic games is the highlight for many of them. With that in mind I just can't see this fellow wanting to withdraw, if anything he would welcome his chance to defeat a representative of his nation's sworn enemy. This is the mentality many Soviet athletes like Alexander Karelin vocalized for years and I think most athletes feel this way but are less up front about it becasue they are not nearlly as dominant in their sport.
Simply put, Iran should compensate this guy for his loss. IMO the country cheaped out big time.....120K for a decision this guy will probably spend the rest of his life wondering about.
Originally Posted by 1victor
09-01-2004, 11:57 AM #9Retired Vet
Originally Posted by chicamahomico
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09-01-2004, 12:16 PM #10
Yeah, but it doesn't matter what the 'real' reason is if they can cook up an 'official' reason that is satisifactory. His failing to make weight is tyhe official reason, althouth there is no doubt in my mind it was intentional.
Originally Posted by BOUNCER
Originally Posted by BOUNCER
09-01-2004, 12:47 PM #11
Here is the link to Sports IL official report on the incident, its interesting reading, but gives little insight as to whether he chose not to fight or was actually overweight.
09-02-2004, 07:36 AM #12
Iran is the best.
Now only if they were more lenient on their women and rules. Iran would flourish.
Islam does not ask a person to be forced to follow their religion.
Iran needs to loosen up its laws a little, let more freedom come in. And it would be a booming country in the future.
09-02-2004, 09:08 AM #13
If that jackass was really had something to say poltically -he should have fought his heart out to win and beat the "Zionist" and shame the Jew with defeat- not puss out!
09-02-2004, 09:34 AM #14Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
And If so isnít it the religious leaders who control society, and the Government?
Last edited by singern; 09-02-2004 at 09:55 AM.
09-02-2004, 09:21 PM #15Originally Posted by singern
Theocratic Republic my Friend your right.
Thats why i said in a pervious thread that the youth in that country are hungry for democracy. Ive seen it with my own eyes we have some friends in Iran trust me
09-03-2004, 08:19 AM #16Originally Posted by singern
Iran is at this moment is kind of a Democracy, where the President is elected.
The problem is, the religious leader, Ayatollah Khamenie holds too much power, for the President Khatami to do anything.
In Sunni Islam there can be a seperation of Church and State, but in Shia usually the Church and State usually are one and the same.
09-03-2004, 08:30 AM #17Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
I'm sure I'm over simplifying this, any thoughts?
09-03-2004, 08:46 AM #18Originally Posted by singern
But lets not forget it was the Iranian people themselves that brought this government into place during the revolution.
Its the nature of man, to rebel against anything forced upon them. Islam is being forced down peoples throats, and they are rebeling for more liberal Islamic views.
And Persians for thousands of years have been rebelious people.
09-03-2004, 11:32 AM #19
I dont think it was his own choice, his team leaders forbid him to fight casue of politics, a real athlete would have fought no mather what country his opponent came from.
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