Thread: Oldest religion still around?
09-26-2004, 05:40 PM #1
Oldest religion still around?
I was just contemplating this today. What religion is the oldest of the ones still beeing "practiced" nowdays??
I would guess its hinduism or buddhism ??
09-26-2004, 06:07 PM #2Originally Posted by johan
Hinduism is regarded as the oldest religion, but the practice of animal worship or sun worship etc, if a religion, is probably the oldest.
09-26-2004, 07:04 PM #3
09-26-2004, 07:25 PM #4
Perhaps zoroastrianism as well. Its not really known.
09-26-2004, 08:00 PM #5
I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to religion (except the christianity what was force drilled into my head by the catholic brothers in HS), but would the worship of the old norse gods be right up there with the oldest religions?
09-26-2004, 08:35 PM #6Junior Member
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I think that the Aztecs had somthin goin long before Budda poked his funny round head.
09-26-2004, 09:40 PM #7
Athiesm i'm sure always exsisted. Making it the oldest that is still practiced.
09-27-2004, 06:34 AM #8
ill take this talk to the time fo Abraham , in his time people used to worship , fire , sun , moon .........etc etc ............. so accordingly thos ekind of worships existed way way before , including idol worshipping too !
09-27-2004, 07:11 AM #9Originally Posted by Red Ketchup
But I was more curious about religions that still exists nowdays
09-27-2004, 08:06 AM #10
what about the voodoo religion/culture how old is that one??
09-27-2004, 08:34 AM #11
I would think something "nature-based" like a pagan or wiccan type religion
09-27-2004, 08:49 AM #12
Hinduism is generally considered to be the oldest religion still being practiced today. This ancient religion was born when the Aryan peoples migrated to Northern India and first put their religious tradition into writing. The texts they created are the Vedas, which were written around 1,500 B.C.E. (before common era) and have greatly influenced Indian culture ever since.
Several other religions are almost as old as Hinduism. Judaism traces its roots back to the patriarch Abraham, who lived around 1,800 B.C.E. While the Jewish people are descended from Abraham, it was Moses who first recorded the Torah, the Jewish holy text, in 1,400 B.C.E. Most sources consider the date of the Torah as the beginning of Judaism.
Zoroastrianism is sometimes called the world's oldest prophetic religion. It's certainly one of the earliest religions founded by one person. Scholars are not certain when the founding prophet Zarathustra actually lived. Some believe Zarathustra lived in the 6th century B.C.E., while others trace his writings to the 14th or 13th centuries B.C.E.
India has been a veritable cradle for world religions -- in addition to Hinduism, both Jainism and Buddhism originated in India. The first of Jainism's sacred lords, called a Tirthankara, lived in the 8th century B.C.E. The last of these lords was Mahavir, who lived in the 5th century B.C.E. and was a key figure in spreading the religion. The philosophical teachings of Siddhartha Gautama, known as the Buddha, spread around Asia after his death in 483 B.C.E.
Oddly enough, the two religions that dominate the world today are relative newcomers to the spiritual scene. Christianity began with the teachings of Jesus Christ around 30 C.E., and Islam started in 610 C.E. with the prophet Muhammad's revelation.
09-27-2004, 08:51 AM #13Originally Posted by OGPackin
09-27-2004, 09:05 AM #14
I found this also...
The Oldest Religion
What is the oldest Religion?
Some people claim that witchcraft is the oldest religion and has survived through family traditions for thousands of years.
To make such a statement of any religion that has endured since Paleolithic times and in its pure form, seems to be highly improbable. This is not to say it couldn't have happened, but it is not essential for someone who wants to believe. It is more likely that religion by its nature has changed, evolved and integrated over time. That would make the mainstream religions of today amalgamated versions.
Others claim that witchcraft is a revival of the "Old Ways." My question is: What "old ways" would that be?
Man has walked on this earth for longer than before recorded history. Even the archaeologists know very little about the cultural beliefs and practices of early man. We assume that they had some sort of transcendent belief because of the manner in which they buried their dead.
It is not until the agricultural developments around 10,000 BCE that man begins to have a sense of cultural identity. As mankind started living in large groups, it is highly probable that the rudiments of what we, today, call "religion" began to formulate. This is not to say there weren't belief structures before societal man.
Currently, there is no evidence to support that witchcraft existed as a religion during these times; in contrast there is no evidence to support that it didn't. Nevertheless, we lack precise knowledge of their philosophies, practices and beliefs. It is only supposition.
There is another problem. Whatever beliefs, theories and ideas we have of early history are based solely on archaeological finds. Archaeology is not an exact science! With each discovery an archaeologist will fill in the missing pieces of history by "connecting the dots." Each rendition of history will be different and biased according to its author.
Then there is also the issue of terminology and classification. When defining a word or concept, one must take into consideration the subjective nature of the definition. This is particularly true when trying to apply a meaning to an ancient cultural concept from a twentieth century standpoint. What constitutes a religion -in Paleolithic Age, -in the Bronze Age, -or even today? What exactly is witchcraft? What are the elements that define it? Is Sorcery the same as witchcraft? Furthermore, how do we distinguish witchcraft from other religions that may contain these same characteristics?
My conclusion is that witchcraft of today is most likely unrelated to whatever similar social and cultural structure that may have existed in ancient times. Also, the ancientness of a religion should have no reflection on its viability or plausibility. Being the oldest religion does not make it better than other religions, or any "truer" than any other spiritual path.
So; "what is the Oldest Religion?"
Every religion today most likely has some aspect of an ancient belief in its philosophy or practice, but to say that one particular religion is the oldest is naive. The reality is-- we do not know. We have no basis for comparison. Most reference books list Hinduism as the oldest world religion. This is probably because Hinduism has the oldest recorded roots, which lie in Dravidianism. Dravidianism is estimated to have been practiced around 6,000 to 3,000 BCE and as such predates the Sumerian, Egyptian, and Babylonian cultures.
Final thought: If one really thinks about it; isn't agnosticism the oldest spiritual structure? After all--are we born believing in a god, -or anything for that matter?
09-27-2004, 09:07 AM #15
Heres some more...
THE WORLD'S OLDEST RELIGION
QUESTION: Is Yoga really the Word's oldest Spiritual system?
ANSWER: This may sound as an extraordinary claim to make yet, on reflection, it could hardly be otherwise. To begin with, there must have been a first Spiritual Path that existed before all the others. Most other paths are known to have had a historical and human founder. In other words, they were initiated by individuals who were born to human parents, lived and finally died. This applies to the founders of Judaism, Zoroastrianism, Buddhism, Christianity, Islam, Sikhism and many others.
Yoga, on the other hand, is known to have been revealed to the World by God, the Primal Lord (Adinatha, Shiva) Himself at the beginning of time. To discover the roots of Yoga we must, therefore, go beyond history, beyond measurable time, beyond even the Creation of the World.
All religions agree that, in the beginning, God alone existed and there was nothing else besides. At that stage, God must have been in a state of Absolute Oneness and Unity with Himself. Since Yoga is Unity, it represents an accurate description of that Original State. Consequently, it must be beyond dispute that Yoga stands in a relation of precedence or priority to all other faiths.
Moreover, Yoga is not only the World's first faith, it also permeates, inheres in and supports, the other faiths. How is that? It will be remembered that the Original State prior to Creation was one of Absolute Oneness and Unity. Unity then is the power that animates all true religions in the World. It is out of the desire to experience that Original Unity again, that all religions have come into being. Let us briefly review the fundamentals of some of the World's religious traditions. Judaism may be said to consist in adhering to the Law of Moses which was given to Mankind that man might live in Unity with God. Christianity may be said to be centred on the redeeming Power of God. Islam is based on submission to the Will of God. Buddhism is about escaping from suffering (which is caused by separation from God). And Hinduism aims at the immersion of the human Soul in God.
Now, none of this would be possible without Unity between man, Universe and God. Yoga, which is Unity, must therefore be admitted to be the driving force behind, as well as the means whereby fulfilment is found in, each and every one of the aforementioned traditions.
Finally, since Yoga is the Experience of Absolute Oneness and Unity with God to which experience all Creation must ultimately return, it becomes evident that Yoga is also the Highest Spirituality. We have thus established that Yoga is not only the first but also the last, there being nothing beyond or above it. Yoga is the final word on Spirituality and the final experience to which all religious effort ultimately leads. As Scripture says, "As the tracks of all beasts, both large and small, fit in the track of the Elephant, even so all Teachings are contained in the Teaching of Shiva. As the Abode of Snow (Himalaya) is among Mountains, as the Moon among the Stars, as the Sun among all things that shine, so this Teaching of Shiva is the Lord of all Teachings" (Shiva Rahasya 12:62-63).
We have so far analysed the issue from a purely logical and Spiritual perspective and we have shown that our conclusion is supported by Yogic scripture. We shall now demonstrate that it is also supported by the evidence of Western scriptures, so that the last clouds of doubt are dispelled from the seeker's mind. The Bible says: "This then is the message which we have heard of him (Christ), and declare unto you, that God is Light, and in Him is no darkness at all" (1 John 1,5). Now this teaching which is central to Christianity must be dated to pre-Christian times. All we have to establish is where it originated.
Writing not long after the composition of the Bible, St. Hippolytus of Rome informs us that, "there are some among the Indians who live a self-sufficient life, who abstain from eating living creatures and cooked food, and subsist on fruit. They say that God is light, not like the light one sees, nor like the Sun or fire, but like the Light of Knowledge whereby the secret mysteries of Nature are perceived by the wise" (Philosophumena XXI - The Brahmans). Yogic teachings had obviously penetrated the very heart of the Classical World.
As we know, these teachings were already established in India long before the rise of Christianity and other Western faiths. Says the Rig Veda: "In the beginning shined the Source of Light, the One Lord of all created beings" (X, 121:1). Lord Shiva, the God of Yoga, is known as Light of the Universe or World-Illuminator(Loka Pradipaka). From the works of ancient European writers we know that the Egyptian City of Alexandria, which was an international centre of culture and learning in those times, was frequented by Indian sages. The Bible tells us that Jesus was taken to Egypt by his parents. Now he could hardly have avoided coming into contact with Yogic teachings, seeing that they were known as far away as Rome.
As the ancients said, it is from the East that all light comes. The Bible itself speaks of "wise men from the East". This fact finds confirmation even from some of the most unexpected quarters. Pope John Paul II himself, in his apostolic letter of 2 May 1995 declares: "The Light of the East has illumined the universal Church, from the moment when "a rising sun" appeared above us." Thus the Eastern origin of all faiths may be regarded as established beyond reasonable doubt. After all, even the Sun rises in the East. And we cannot deny what is patent fact.
09-27-2004, 12:41 PM #16Junior Member
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WHAT ABOUT THE GOD **** AZTECS!
They did drugs and walked oround killin shot and prayin to the stars long before the vikins were around... I thinks.......
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