09-28-2004, 09:57 PM #1
Al Qaida.....what they might want
Al Qaida 'Duped Allies into Waging War'
By Andrew Woodcock, Political Correspondent, PA News
One of al Qaida’s aims in its September 11 attacks on the US three years ago was to draw the west into military conflict on Arab soil, Prime Minister Tony Blair’s former envoy to Iraq acknowledged today.
Sir Jeremy Greenstock’s comments appeared to give some credence to the argument of critics of the Iraq War that the US and UK played into al Qaida’s hands by launching last year’s invasion.
Opponents of the war warned that it would act as a recruiting sergeant for terror chief Osama bin Laden, by appearing to confirm his claims that the West was engaged in a war on Islam, as well as providing a new field of battle for his militants.
Sir Jeremy today said the allies had “suffered the consequences” in Iraq of al Qaida’s determination to exploit the opportunities presented by a war on Arab soil.
He said that the West could not defeat bin Laden’s terror network by military means alone, but must adopt policies to reduce resentment in the Muslim world.
If the allies failed to help Iraq put an end to its current instability, they would be left “worse off than when we started”, he warned.
Sir Jeremy, who was at the centre of events in the run-up to last year’s war as UK ambassador to the United Nations, told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “I think it was one of the objectives of Osama bin Laden and the al Qaida leadership originally to draw America into conflict on Arab soil as close to Saudi Arabia as possible.”
Asked if this meant the allies had in fact played into al Qaida’s hands, he responded: “To some extent, we are suffering the consequences of that.”
Iraq must not be allowed to become a failed state, with chaotic conditions providing a breeding ground for terrorism, he warned.
“Iraq is not yet a failed state,” said Sir Jeremy. “We are in a transition period, which has got considerable difficulties.
“But if Iraq ends up as a failed state and we leave it in that state, then we are worse off than when we started.
“If Iraq eventually gets through this phase and decides, within its own society, that it doesn’t want violence and in particular foreign terrorists on its soil, and becomes a more stable and a more open state, then we may have made an advance.
“But the present phase is very dangerous and we need to think not just about the use of military force, but about the wider policies that need to starve terrorism of the oxygen it gets from worldwide resentment and polarisation, mostly against the West.” ends
09-28-2004, 10:01 PM #2
I dont believe that though. I dont think the terrorist thought we'd go anything near what we've done.
09-28-2004, 10:03 PM #3Originally Posted by EastCoaster
Afghanistan was kind of out of the way......Iraq is more in the middle of the action and the terrorists are flocking there....
09-28-2004, 10:12 PM #4
I think Iraq seems to be the focus point because thats where the action is. They are destorying all progress we're trying to make. Their making the rebuilding process look impossible, and peace nonexistant. They are in Iraq because they know how much time and money we've invested.... they're hitting us where it hurts the most..... or makes us look the dumbest.
09-28-2004, 10:31 PM #5
I dont know what progress they are destroying that we are making in Iraq. There really isnt a thing as destroyable progress right now. We are just trying to dig in and fight the resistance.
Everyone one expects IMMEDIATE results. A democratic governemtn and a new glamorous city being built all just months after bombings. It doesnt work like that.
Its been 3 years since the trade center fell down. You dont see new buildings being built there right away either.
When Osama bombed the trade center in the 90s, he didnt plan that the americans would go to the ME. He just wanted to destroy our stuff. Same thing with the planes. He just planned on destroying stuff.
He coudlnt forsee us being in Iraq. That had nothing to do with his blowing up the trade center.
I think its funny that somoene actually concocted all this.
09-28-2004, 10:39 PM #6Originally Posted by bermich
Thats my whole point.... we cant do anything but fend off terrorism, rather than rebuild Iraq (like the Bush Adminstration planned).
09-29-2004, 05:21 AM #7
we the UNITED STATES OF ASSHOLES , could not not do anything in vietnam , pretty much slaughtered our soldiers for nothing , its just what we get poking into others affairs , we cannot be the police of the world , just be a super power n keep an eye on everyone not go there and start something ........... there is no way these guys can WIN this so called war on TERROR , because u need to start nukign these countries if u really wanna WIN !
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