10-11-2004, 03:30 PM #1
crazy liberal teacher feeding me propoganda
Can you guys believe that my professor gave me this and asked us to respond, these ****ing crazy liberal teachers wont stop with the probaganda..can someone help me come up with and argument to shut this dike down...
"kerry's votin record biting him in the ass...or not
the thing about that is that people don't take into account the complexity of a senate vote. There's a thing called "piggy backing" which is how you get a lot of **** passed in the senate. Say you want to get money to fund something but that thing isn't "popular" and on its own, it won't pass. So you find a bill that is DEFINITLY going to pass and get your little thing added to it. So, say, if senate wants to pass the bill to fund research for a new bomber plane that everyone wants, they have to approve a bill which also gives money to some weird unpopular weapons system that is more excess waste than necessary or viable. A bill isn't as simple as bush always puts it when he tries to slam kerry. When he says that kerry didn't want to fund the troops since he voted against that 87 billion bill, it's simplifying and mistating a very complicated matter. But none of us sitting here know exactly was in that bill (i've heard that there was basically massive amounts of money going to haliburton) but since bush calls it the bill to fund the troops, that must be wut it was! 87 billion directly to troops, straight to their pockets! The impression i get is that kerry saw some **** within the bill that was bull**** and he didn't agree with so he voted no. Bush turns that into "you don't want to fund the troops." And since most american's have no idea about how the senate works, they think that he's right.
bush tried to pull the same thing on abortion and kerry tried to explain what i'm explaining, but bush only replied that since kerry voted no that it means he's anti this or anti that. You can completely agree with the idea (lets fund the troops) yet disagree with the bill because it's not the best way to do it or there's some bull**** sliding in there. "
10-11-2004, 03:40 PM #2Originally Posted by HULK1732
One of the things that a college education is supposed to do is help you learn how to think for yourself.
If you think your teacher is full of BS, you really need to figure out why. Much better you learn to figure out why you think as you do than to rely on other people to tell you what you think.
If you can't learn to do this, you can't really consider yourself to be an educated person.
Think for yourself, goddammit.
10-11-2004, 03:44 PM #3
Um, first off, it's spelled "dyke". Secondly, homophobia will blind most people to any type of thoughful argument that you would be making. Thirdly, you have already stated that she is wrong, so obviously you have a sound reason for believing this, why are you asking for others to give you one?
10-11-2004, 04:50 PM #4
Wow tock thanks for the insightfull post, i guess i should have elaborated on what the assignment was. Im supposed to write a "educated" response to weather i agree with this statement or not. I see nothing wrong with getting the help of some of the more educated intelligent memebers on this board; chances, urbanlegend someone with some insight and knowledege. Personally i think you are a radical liberal from reading your posts thats fine, but if dont have anything intteligent to add to a thread dont try and get your posts up by posting ignorant junk.
and abot get real man, if you wanna be a politicaly correct tight ass then get off this board, your from canada so we can cut you some slack, but jesus have a sense of humor pull the ****ing dick out of your ass and relaxe man...
10-11-2004, 05:56 PM #5
I'm a conservative (relatively) and I completely agree with your teacher. That's a pretty good picture of how bills are voted on.
However, she doesn't mention what other projects/funds were being piggybacked on the 87 billion. The crux of my argument would rest on this data.
10-11-2004, 07:13 PM #6
I'm still mystified that you object to what your "liberal" teacher has said, but you nonetheless need someone else to provide you with an argument to "shut this dike down." Surely, if you think she is in error, you have an idea why.
Maybe you think she is just a "liberal dike" who can't be trusted to offer intelligent commentary on political matters. Maybe she is. Then again, she just might have a clue . . . which, on this issue, is something you admit you are wholly without.
(1) Research the issue instead of try to counter her "probaganda." Once you have collected data that reflects various sides of the issue, analyze it and develop an informed opinion. The pool of knowledge posessed by the folks on this board is quite impressive; you could begin your quest for information with which to form an opinon here. Better that, than embarrass yourself asking for means to show that "dike" up, especially if those means fracture the moment you wield them upon your target.
(2) If you're attending post-secondary education, it's time to learn capitalization, how to spell, punctuate, and express ideas, not to mention acquiring some skills in critical thinking. It would be a shame to spend 4 years in college and graduate as a dunce.
10-11-2004, 10:12 PM #7
haha wow tock thanks for the insight, as for graduating in 4 years thanks, im actually working on my masters in business finance...and have several great job offers. As far as spelling and gramar, i dont really care to check my spelling on some steroid board. Im sure your life is great posting meaningless crap on a steroid board. Please refrain from posting ignorant crap, i want insighful posts. If you want help with your investment decisions or need to learn how to manage your money i could help you there, but im not insulting your ability to manage money, because i dont know how you do that or who you are, so shut your mouth. My bet you being a liberal is that i already make more money at my internship then you could even dream of making. So as far as me being ignorant and stupid do you reaserch, i graduated from CU with a 3.6 and currently attend one of the top business programs in America....if any one has anything insightfull to say then i welcome it.
10-11-2004, 11:26 PM #8
oh and thanks mmc78 thats what i was looking to hear.
10-12-2004, 12:11 AM #9Originally Posted by HULK1732
Let me know if you go work for Janus Mutual Funds in Denver, because they've got a bunch of my retirement funds. I'll want to move it someplace safer . . .
10-12-2004, 07:26 AM #10Originally Posted by HULK1732
10-12-2004, 12:45 PM #11
hey tock sounds good, not a big fan of janus hit you with some better choices if you are really interested in it...as far as the market goes, i would be looking at bio's right now, brli is a favorite, if you wanna make some money give that a week and look for a consolidation around 14 15 and i will give u a good buy signal...no joke hehe, anyways thanks for the info.
Sin obivously you havn't been to grad school...
10-12-2004, 02:28 PM #12Originally Posted by HULK1732
Last edited by sin; 01-21-2007 at 05:46 PM.
10-12-2004, 02:44 PM #13Originally Posted by sin
10-12-2004, 03:00 PM #14Originally Posted by MMC78
10-12-2004, 05:34 PM #15Originally Posted by HULK1732
Well, if you're not informed on poliics, why assume your professor is full of BS?
"Sounds a bit premature," he ejaculated.
10-12-2004, 05:55 PM #16Originally Posted by MMC78
thats true, but it wasnt really the point.
10-12-2004, 06:28 PM #17
sin i laid out the point for ya..did u get it?
10-12-2004, 07:18 PM #18Originally Posted by HULK1732
10-19-2004, 09:04 PM #19Associate Member
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My understanding is that Kerry didn't like the source of the funding for the 87 billion. If I remember correctly, he wanted to discontinue the tax cut for those making more than $200K to fund it.
MMC brought up a good point. I'd also look at the funding direction.
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