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    Induction Into the Service of Islam...

    The only way Muslims can have assurance of salvation and eternal life is by becoming a martyr for the cause of Islam... dying and killing for the cause of Islam is not only an honor, but also a way of pleasing Allah." .... From Reza F. Safa, author of Inside Islam
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    I'll leave this to our resident Islamic scholar, CAUASIAN.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Power
    The only way Muslims can have assurance of salvation and eternal life is by becoming a martyr for the cause of Islam... dying and killing for the cause of Islam is not only an honor, but also a way of pleasing Allah." .... From Reza F. Safa, author of Inside Islam
    First of all I am not a Islamic Scholar. I am an Islamic rookie, I wish I was an Islamic Scholar. Hopefully one day.

    Secondly its spelt Causasian.

    And the about quote is not the only way a muslim can have assurance of salvation and eternal life. It is one way.

    But not by killing civilians. Fighting in a war defending your religion or for your religion, is one of the greastest thing a man can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
    First of all I am not a Islamic Scholar. I am an Islamic rookie, I wish I was an Islamic Scholar. Hopefully one day..
    Well your pretty well versed in the Quran, I wish you the best for the future. I appricate your input here.

    Secondly its spelt Causasian.

    Quote Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
    My apologise's, I try to get it right but I'm just home from a 24 hr shift in work and alittle tired. I'm sure you know I never intended any offence.

    And the about quote is not the only way a muslim can have assurance of salvation and eternal life. It is one way.

    But not by killing civilians. Fighting in a war defending your religion or for your religion, is one of the greastest thing a man can do.

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    lol, sorry I got the last qoute the wrong way around, see I'm exhausted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER
    lol, sorry I got the last qoute the wrong way around, see I'm exhausted.
    LOL. I think that is against the rules, twisting peoples quotes.

    Dont worry, I was up studying. It is 4:10am where I am from, and I have to get up at 8am.

    I just wanted to research on my coming cutting cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Power
    The only way Muslims can have assurance of salvation and eternal life is by becoming a martyr for the cause of Islam... dying and killing for the cause of Islam is not only an honor, but also a way of pleasing Allah." .... From Reza F. Safa, author of Inside Islam
    yes its true what u r saying but , with only one minor correction , the war should be a justified one , not terrorist acts like some so called muslims are doing , just like HITLER who thought he was doing God's work by genociding the jews .......... so to make a statement like that u may wanna have a little patience and know of what u r trying to imply ! thx

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZOAIB
    yes its true what u r saying but , with only one minor correction , the war should be a justified one , not terrorist acts like some so called muslims are doing , just like HITLER who thought he was doing God's work by genociding the jews .......... so to make a statement like that u may wanna have a little patience and know of what u r trying to imply ! thx
    Not trying to imply anything except the truth, which has already been acknowledged as such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Power
    Not trying to imply anything except the truth, which has already been acknowledged as such.
    WELL THE TRUTH is not always as simple as u see it to be !!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZOAIB
    WELL THE TRUTH is not always as simple as u see it to be !!!!!!!!

    I wont argue semantics, or personal interpretation. The cold hard undisputable fact that dying and killing for the cause of Islam is a goal, an cherished ambition, a social and religious high to strive for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Power
    I wont argue semantics, or personal interpretation. The cold hard undisputable fact that dying and killing for the cause of Islam is a goal, an cherished ambition, a social and religious high to strive for.
    WRONG ! fighting for the right and give your life in doing so for Allah ! is a goal only when needed ........... what these terrorists are doing is not islam ...... the problem is the ignorancy of people to understand the situation has caused these problems , and maybe if the USA would stop being the police of the world the world would be a lot more peaceful , dont even get me to start talking about the hypocracies of this country and its people , this country was made by genociding the blood of the native indians ......... and this country slaved black negros for over 100 years before they even got their rights ( hung them on trees , by racist KKK ) ........... so look at your own skeletons in your closet before u start pondering upon superficial and exagerated things !

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZOAIB
    WRONG ! fighting for the right and give your life in doing so for Allah ! is a goal only when needed ........... what these terrorists are doing is not islam ...... the problem is the ignorancy of people to understand the situation has caused these problems , and maybe if the USA would stop being the police of the world the world would be a lot more peaceful , dont even get me to start talking about the hypocracies of this country and its people , this country was made by genociding the blood of the native indians ......... and this country slaved black negros for over 100 years before they even got their rights ( hung them on trees , by racist KKK ) ........... so look at your own skeletons in your closet before u start pondering upon superficial and exagerated things !
    Your argument is passionate, but you cannot compare a nations actions of past history (yes today we see them as inhumane crimes) which were corrected by a civilized, humane desire for change, with the stone writen mentality, current philosophy, current beleifs, current actions of Islam.
    And by the way I never intended to insult you personaly. It seems you have taken it that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Will Power
    Your argument is passionate, but you cannot compare a nations actions of past history (yes today we see them as inhumane crimes) which were corrected by a civilized, humane desire for change, with the stone writen mentality, current philosophy, current beleifs, current actions of Islam.
    And by the way I never intended to insult you personaly. It seems you have taken it that way.
    not your fault or mine , your views of islam are obvious , because that is what the propaganda machine of the USA is doing and i have to say they have done a very superb job , the hypocracy that lies beneath what u see , is far ugly than an average person knows about , u all think these wars are new wars ............... nope they are here since the advent of judaisim , christianity and then islam ........... i am a person who looks at the big picture ....... and thats what i see !

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    " THE JEWEL OF PEACE IS ALWAYS PROTECTED BY A BUNCH OF THEIVES "

    this quote may help u understand my view point !

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