Thread: Doing it again......
11-19-2004, 01:44 PM #1
Doing it again......
Source of Powell's Iran intelligence under scrutiny
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The source of intelligence used this week by U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell to suggest Iran is working on a nuclear weapons program may not be reliable, knowledgeable sources told CNN Friday.
The issue surfaced when The National Council of Resistance of Iran -- which is on the U.S. State Department's list of terrorist organizations -- revealed satellite photographs this week it said showed a hidden nuclear plant in Iran, allegations the Iranians denied.
"This allegation is timed to coincide with the next meeting of the board of governors of the IAEA [International Atomic Energy Agency]," Iran's top nuclear negotiator, Hussein Moussavian, said. "And every time just before the meeting there are these kind of allegations either from the United States or terrorist groups. And every time these allegations have proven to be false."
Powell, en route to the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit in Santiago, Chile, told reporters he had seen intelligence that appears to "corroborate" the resistance group's information.
Some U.S. officials were angered by a report in Friday's edition of The Washington Post which quotes two sources who said Powell used information that was classified, and from a single unvetted source.
The Post article said the information Powell shared with reporters came from a "walk-in" source who approached U.S. intelligence and may or may not be reliable.
While declining to say whether the Post account was accurate, one U.S. official said "public discussion of the details of the human source of intelligence is irresponsible and a remarkably bad idea."
The official called it "disturbing" that other officials would discuss sources and methods in any detail with a journalist.
Analysts say the CIA may ask the Justice Department to investigate the leak.
Intelligence insiders question whether the leak could have come from their community, which traditionally guards information about sources and methods very carefully.
The intelligence upon which Powell based his comments to reporters was disseminated to a range of officials at the State Department, the White House, and the Pentagon, among other entities.
A British source also said his government was aware of the information.
The Post reported that the "walk-in" source delivered "more than 1,000 pages purported to be Iranian drawings and technical documents, including a nuclear warhead design and modifications to enable Iranian ballistic missiles to deliver an atomic strike."
Before the Post story appeared, Powell discussed his Wednesday comment with Chilean television.
"Now, I made a statement yesterday that said we had some information," Powell said. "I've seen some information, and the dissidents have put out more information, that suggests that the Iranians are also working on the designs one would have to have for putting such a warhead into a missile.
"This shouldn't be brand-new news. This shouldn't surprise anybody. If they had been working on a nuclear weapon and design a warhead, certainly they were also trying to figure out how they would deliver such a warhead."
In October, Iran said it could mass produce the Shahab-3 missile, capable of hitting Israel and U.S. forces in the Mideast, although it insisted that the missiles were only for defensive purposes. Reports at the time said the missile was capable of carrying a conventional or nonconventional warhead.
Powell, who has submitted his resignation and will not serve in the second Bush administration, said the Iranians need to "convince the international community that they are not moving in the direction of a nuclear weapon, and they will comply with their obligations to the IAEA."
11-19-2004, 01:53 PM #2
Badger do you really think that Iran is not working towards nukes? Now I know you are not that blind.
11-19-2004, 01:57 PM #3Originally Posted by 1victor
11-19-2004, 02:02 PM #4
This is like Iraq revisited......does this administration think they can do it to US again???.......they must think we are REALLY stupid
11-19-2004, 02:06 PM #5Originally Posted by Badgerman
yea and they are right. fear sells better than sex my friend.
remember when everyone ran out to buy gas masks? and those morons thought theyd be safe in the event of a chemical attack. they didnt realize that theyd have 15 seconds to put on there masks following a chemical attack and that most of them had a filter that lasted 45 minutes. not to mention that the ones sold commercially dont block Vx, or Sarrin gasses. but hey we are stupid.
11-19-2004, 02:31 PM #6
We are talking Iran not Iraq. And two totally different circumstances. Iran has claimed to have it or at least the capability. Iraq never did to my knowledge.
Dean you didn't know me 2 years ago.
11-19-2004, 02:43 PM #7Banned
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11-20-2004, 12:25 AM #8
I'll tell you one thing......I don't think Iran would be as easy as Iraq.......JMO.......
talk about a big mess......
11-20-2004, 08:48 AM #9
There is no doubt that they made these breeder reactors to make nuclear material. They have not allways denied wanting to make nuclear weapons. I do think our intelligence should be confirmed through mutiple means before acting on it like we did in Iraq. But just like in Iraq, the Weapons of Mass Destruction was an excuss to take out Sadam Hussain. I seen that before we even went to war. The rusting stock piles of Chemical and biological weapons where not even usable. Just moving the rusting crap around prolly was unsafe for the people doing so. The main issue was that saddam wanted Weapons of Mass destruction. We may have had him under check for these many year preventing him from doing it in the open. But there is no Doubt he would get his hands on this equipment if he got the chance.
Have you guys heard of the super cannon that they found in Iraq? This one was intresting and if you guys dont know about it I will post some info on it.
And do you guys not think that Saddam would purchase a Nuclear device if given the chance??
11-20-2004, 08:52 AM #10
I think Iran would be just as impressive as the first gulf war. Our equipment can take out theirs before we even come into range of theirs. We have a major advantage on the ground. And I want Iran to be next. Making their kids shout Death to America every morning before school should end up meaning something for them.
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