11-25-2004, 11:08 AM #1Anabolic Member
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Iraqi forces find chemical materials in lab
11-25-2004, 02:15 PM #2
From the looks of the lab it was small-scale insurgent trying to make some chemical weapons, maybe past elements from the iraqi regime with knowledge on how to make them were trying to stirr up some trouble.
Im getting some flashbacks when looking at those chemicals....reminds me of my home meth-lab when i was in college....maybe the insurgents were trying to make party drugs!!
11-26-2004, 11:33 PM #3
That is the gayest excuse for a so-called lab I have ever seen. Where's a hood magnetic mixers, distillation columns, etc etc. If a "lab" like THAT is what we went to war for we truly are idiots. I had more stuff than that in my high school chem course.........jeez
11-27-2004, 08:13 AM #4Originally Posted by Badgerman
11-27-2004, 09:25 AM #5Originally Posted by BigGreen
Yep. The people on the hijacked planes only used platic knives (letter openers), and you can make explosives from common household products. Don't ask me how, but I remember a while back there was all this attention put on how easy it was to make a pipe bomb, after the Oklahoma bombings and the whole Timothy McVegh deal.........
Terrorists don't need to take out huge numbers of people to make their scare tactics effective. Just killing one person that we thought was safe strikes fear, hence the beheadings of civilians.
That being said, this lab, and the vials of Sarin gas they also found in Iraq, don't consitute a grave enough situation to warrent the invasion of Iraq. These 'WMD's' aren't anything special, nothing that terrorists couldn't get anywhere else. If we find out Saddam's chemical weapons program was operaional and had sold things to Al-Queda, that will be different.
11-27-2004, 02:37 PM #6Originally Posted by BigGreen
Like I say.......that "lab" was nothing more than a few bottles of chemicals sitting on a counter. No way could you manufacture a nerve agent or biologics with a delivery system with a setup like that......our military must think we are all morons. And we went to war for that?? what a joke.
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Originally Posted by Badgerman
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as usual, you are totally wrong on the facts - they had all that they needed to manufacture hydrogen cyanide - which is better known by the name the Nazis used for it "Zyklon B" when they had the gas chambers - and most tellingly, during the Iran-Iraq War in the 1980s, hydrogen cyanide gas was used along with other chemical agents to gas the Kurds. So, they very well know what they are trying to do. A weapon of mass distruction? no, but a very nasty IUD that might be able to kill 20-30 Americans.
Again, Badgerman...get your facts straight before making blanket statements - you will look smarter
But I was actually stunned to see that you "love America" Its a start I suppose and who knows perhaps the actions will someday follow the statement. That you dont like Bush has never bothered me at all but your seeming inability to understand that our men and women in uniform are not him makes you a lesser man IMHO
11-27-2004, 11:57 PM #8Originally Posted by CYCLEON
Delivering it is a different problem. A few bottles on a counter is hardly a big threat to the US. I could spray you with bugkiller and I guess you'd call that a chemical attack also.
You could "love America" by not falling for bullsh** excuses for war nimrod
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