03-22-2005, 11:53 PM #1
I have a few questions. Was there mention of a hell in the Old Testemant?
Was hell not introduced in the New Testemant? How do Jews or Muslims feel about hell. Believe or not? I guess I'm trying to understand how Jews, Christians, and Muslims got so far apart. Don't they all believe in the same God? How could it have all gone so wrong.
By the way, I am not a true believer. It would not surprize me to find out that God exists, however not the god of the previously mentioned religion. I certainly don't believe that "Jesus" was born without a human father, or that he rose from the dead. But that's just me.
You will have to forgive me. I'm not as well read in bible verse as many of you are. I have not been to a church since I was 10 and refused to concede that God made rainbows. I tried to tell that goofy bitch that sunlight reflecting off moisture in the sky created rainbows as we know them. This bitch thought I was Satan himself. I also called BS when they were talking about placing two of each animals on Noah's boat. "I said even if they could fit two of every creature on the planet on one boat, how did they keep the predators from eating the other animals. I think the rainbow thing really put her over the edge though. Mom never made me go listen to all that bull**** after that though.
03-23-2005, 04:51 AM #2
Im a christian (just to let you know where Im coming from). Muslims will tell you that the 3 groups you listed do worship the same God. Christians will tell you the God in Islam is not the God in christianity (there are big differences in how God presents himself in those religions). The christian old testament God and the Jewish God (from my point of view and I think all christianity and I think Jews as well) are the same (jew please confirm..). Christianity of course believes Jesus is the messiah and believe in the trinity of God: father, son, holy spirit...all make up God. So in the NT, God revealed himself even further in Jesus. So NOW, the jews and christians do not believe in the same God because they reject Jesus as the messiah and as God, so they reject God as he has revealed himself.
I dont have my bible with me unfortunatly (at work) and I dont like answering questions without proofs from the bible, instead of me re-wording what a verse says. So Ill reply to the rest of your post this afternoon.
03-23-2005, 08:23 PM #3Originally Posted by max2extreme
So no I dont worship the GOD what Christians worship, but I do belive Christians are supposed to follow the one GOD, and it was corrupted, and they are misguided.
A Jewish person will not accept Jesus (PBUH), as being GOD, or part of GOD.
So if they reject Jesus (PBUH) being GOD or part of GOD, then Jews and Christians arent also worshipping in the same GOD.
Jews and Muslims worship the same GOD.
Last edited by CAUSASIAN; 03-23-2005 at 08:25 PM.
03-23-2005, 08:31 PM #4
I would like to add, to be a Muslim a person should only belive in the Shahada.
The shahādah, or the Islamic creed, is the declaration of belief in the unity of God (Allah in Arabic) and the prophethood of Muhammad. Its recitation is considered one of the Five Pillars of Islam. When stated aloud, one is considered to have officially declared oneself a convert to Islam.
03-24-2005, 04:24 AM #5
i dont think jews say they worship the same god as muslims though....thats what muslims say. i COULD be wrong but im pretty sure im not.
03-24-2005, 01:09 PM #6Originally Posted by max2extreme
Its just like with the Prophets. When Moses (PBUH) revealed his message many people rejected him, when Jesus (PBUH) revealed his message Jews rejected him, and others rejected him. Then when Mohammed (PBUH) came with his message Jews and Christians rejected him, and others rejected him.
03-24-2005, 02:20 PM #7
sheez sheez sheez, JESUS is not God, never was, never be, but as a Messenger of God he was perceived as God as he brought his message, **** im tired of Muslem and their how they dont understand trinity! Trinity same thing, same ****, other words to say the same message thats it thats all, thank you come again!
****ing tired of it, im starting my own religion!
03-24-2005, 03:06 PM #8
Jesus was God.
03-24-2005, 03:10 PM #9Originally Posted by books555
03-24-2005, 03:34 PM #10Originally Posted by books555
03-24-2005, 04:03 PM #11- Jesus was God.
- And the son of GOD right?
- Then who was his father????
03-24-2005, 04:36 PM #12Originally Posted by Red Ketchup
03-24-2005, 08:25 PM #13Originally Posted by CAUSASIAN
03-24-2005, 08:25 PM #14Originally Posted by MrMondodondo
god the trinity..father, son, holy spirit. 3 distinct entities make up 1 being.
Users Browsing this Thread
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)