Thread: Why do we do this??
03-25-2005, 10:04 PM #1
Why do we do this??
Freely sell weaponry giving away our edge in technology to some country that might in the future be our enemy.......GW is a whore
Changing policy, U.S. to sell F-16 jets to Pakistan
From Elise Labott
CNN Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Senior U.S. officials said Friday that a deal to sell F-16 fighter jets to Pakistan was approved and the United States will compete for contracts to provide Pakistan's nuclear rival India with the same jets.
President Bush called Indian Prime Minister Monmohan Singh to tell him the decision to go ahead with the sale to Pakistan, the officials announced. India has balked at the sale.
India and Pakistan have been at odds for decades over ownership of the region of Kashmir.
The United States had banned weapons sales to both India and Pakistan in the 1990s because each had tested nuclear weapons. One official said that the United States has had to adapt to the reality that both countries have a nuclear capability.
"The U.S. has to live in the world that exists, not the world we wish" exists, the official said. He added that the United States is trying to create a "positive force" and defuse tensions in a potentially dangerous region.
U.S. officials said the sale to Pakistan is the result of the deepening relationship with that country. The improved relations, they said, came about because of President Pervez Musharraf 's actions since the September 11, 2001, attacks -- assisting with the hunt for Osama bin Laden, cooperating with the investigation into the weapons network of Pakistani scientist A.Q. Khan and agreeing to elections in 2007.
Last year, the Bush administration declared Pakistan a non-NATO ally and this year, the United States started a five-year aid package to Pakistan worth $3 billion.
Crucial region in terror war
The sale to both countries is part of a new U.S. strategy for South Asia, a region the United States sees as vital to U.S. national security interests and crucial to the war on terror.
A senior administration official said that the Bush administration will continue to broaden its relationship with India. Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, in India last week, told Prime Minister Singh that the United States will help India become a major world power in the 21st century.
The official said that United States will allow U.S. companies to bid for contracts to provide F-16 fighter jets to India and additional defense technology, such as command and control and early warning systems.
The United States will also beef up its economic, energy and trade ties with India, the official said.
Indian Prime Minister Singh has already accepted an invitation from Bush to visit the White House in July, and the president plans to visit India sometime within the next year, an official said.
Officials said they do not see the sale to either country as tilting the military balance between India and Pakistan. Although officials would not talk specific numbers for the sales, India is shopping for 125 aircraft. Pakistan has had a long-standing request for 25.
However, these officials said, the sale could increase Pakistan's security with India at a time of improved relations between the two countries.
"It is important for the Pakistani government feel secure," one official said. "It is in India's interest that Pakistan feel secure."
03-25-2005, 10:46 PM #2Senior Member
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03-25-2005, 10:56 PM #3
I have a feeling the US isn't giving them the most advanced, top notch technology. I don't think the gov't would put itself in that kind of position. They prob have all kinds of shady backdoor schit going on, new tech we will never know of or understand.
03-25-2005, 10:56 PM #4
We need the money. We are broke paying for all the welfare recipients, and unemployment and disability folks that don't wanna work.....
03-25-2005, 10:57 PM #5Originally Posted by MrMondodondo
03-26-2005, 12:41 AM #6Originally Posted by MrMondodondo
juddster, it's actually scary who we do give top-o'-the-line weapons to. egypt and israel, for instance, have abrahms tanks. two poo countries if you ask this lil' afro-american from Bjork's anus.
03-26-2005, 03:33 AM #7
its almost as mad as declaring war on iraq then goin live on tv telling them your gonna attack them. What ever happened to the element of suprise?
03-26-2005, 04:04 AM #8
To me it's kind of like handing the opposing team your playbook.......
F-16s are still top line fighters......let's keep them in OUR garage......
remember all the **** we sold Saddam??.....now that little error in judgement is costing US a trillion $.......something to keep in mind
03-26-2005, 05:19 AM #9Retired Vet
Originally Posted by John Stamos' Nephew
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Financing Israel has got America very good returns on its money. Had Israel lost just one war in the last fifty years Russia & China would have had control of the Middle Easts oil fields, where would America have been then?. One things for sure, Russia wouldn't have lost the cold war
03-26-2005, 08:14 AM #10Originally Posted by BOUNCER
That is so not even close to the truth, I really dont know how to answer that.
03-26-2005, 08:24 AM #11
Both Russia and China dont consume alot of oil TODAY let alone decades ago.
Russia makes enough oil for itself, and most of the oil it has, it exports.
03-26-2005, 12:50 PM #12Originally Posted by BOUNCER
i agree the israel is in some ways a valuable ally in the middle east, but i stand by my statement it's a crappy country. they are usurpers who are mean to arabs.
03-26-2005, 01:24 PM #13
you guys are so wrong
im right and im brilliant
thank you come again!
03-26-2005, 01:36 PM #14Associate Member
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watch out for the end of the world, or at least the near end of the modern way of the world, by 2012 for sure! dont ask how i know....takes years of brainstorming...and history studies/research. WE ARE ALL DOOMED, i recommend you stay away from middle east + the states +europe around that time. best areas will be iceland and far north in canada.....but NOT even australia.
hell is going to break loose.....****
03-26-2005, 01:57 PM #15Senior Member
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I guess by 2010 I should start making my plans for my move to Iceland! I must ask you how you know this out of curiosity. I'll take the short version.
03-26-2005, 03:30 PM #16Originally Posted by redwizza
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