Thread: Trancendental meditation
05-22-2005, 09:24 PM #1
Been looking into this for the past few months, finally found a place near mne that teaches its methods and they charge 2500!!!!!!! dollars. Wondering if theres neother way to research this, ne good books or alternative methods that deal with mind/body/soul to increase energy,reduce stress and things of this nature?
05-22-2005, 09:38 PM #2Originally Posted by Machdiesel
THere are many good books reguarding this subject. I am gonna do some quick research. I believe it comes from eastern philosophy. Research its foundation, find out wheather it is = Logically consistent, Empiracaly adequate, Experiential relevent. IMPORTANT
05-22-2005, 10:34 PM #3Originally Posted by Machdiesel
Nevertheless, feel free to ask more questions . . .
05-22-2005, 10:37 PM #4Originally Posted by books555
FYI, the physiological benefits that accrue from TM have nothing to do with its associated philosophy. Even blaspheming Sabbath-breakers like myself profit from its effects.
05-22-2005, 11:28 PM #5Originally Posted by Machdiesel
Transcendental Meditation: Deceitfully propagated as nonreligious, this is undoubtedly Hindu. Maharishi Mahesh Yogi is the leader. Mandatory initiatory rites in Sanskrit address the Lord Narayana, Brahma the Creator. Daily meditation focuses on the Source of Creative Intelligence within the individual himself.
Redemption and Salvation
"Be still and know that you are God, and when you know that you are God you will begin to live Godhood..." (Ibid., p. 178).
Go within and experience the Divine Nature!
A mystical experience reached by various methods which blanks out all sense impressions and releases one into a sense of identity with the great All, the only Reality!
There is no supernatural intervention. We bear the whole responsibility for our actions. If we attain the clear vision of what we are, "the Divine or Inner Light, and the god within," we need not go elsewhere. "All may say, at the moment of Awakening, 'I am the Way' " (KC, p. 237).
Salvation comes through the realization that there is no duality. God is all-in-all, is all there is, and "that are Thou" (Upanishads).
God-realization, or Self-realization, the highest of all states of being, is a here and now possibility by any of the suggested methods. 1) The Way of Knowledge, usually involving meditation focused within. This may be aided by silent repetition of a designated, personal mantra, which is a group of sounds without meaning. Or by "Knowledge" imparted by a "master" by which "inner light" is given and the "current of real life" (the source of life) is turned on within us. Meditation is upon this "light experience." 2) The Way of Works, following prescribed rules of conduct without desire. This is the more common way of India, much less emphasized in the West. 3) The Way of Devotion to a deity, involving continuous chanting of the chosen name, as exemplified by the vocal Krishna-Consciousness cult.
Transcendental Meditation is a path to God (MM, p. 59).
The way of Yoga (meaning union) is that of concentration aided by body control, with the aim being "Union with the Divine."
Self-realization is entry into the Kingdom of Heaven within, entry into the field of the Creator. "It is the gradual movement from Matter to Mind, and then to Super Mind. Once we reach the Super Mind, we reach union with the Divine."
Note: I do not condemn all of the Eastern practices. I have a freind who uses yoga for purely physical reasons, but does not believe in the philosphy behind it.
05-23-2005, 02:27 AM #6
find a buddhist temple or something similar and they will teach you meditation for free
05-23-2005, 07:38 PM #7
i heard soemone needs to give ur "name" or give u ur sign then u worship to that preticular thing, not sure what the kid was trying to say, but everyone has their own "Sign" and u need to figure this out from a "profesional before u can start, ne truth to thsi?
05-23-2005, 07:40 PM #8
yea i cant read long things online,i think im just gonna hit a book store n look around
05-23-2005, 10:24 PM #9Originally Posted by Machdiesel
Yes, you are given what's called a "mantra" that you repeat over and over to yourself, which is what induces the state of deep relaxation. When they gave me mine, they told me that it can change all on its own, and if it does, that's perfectly fine.
All you really need to do to get a mantra is to pick any two or three letters of the alphabet that don't remind you of anything. Like, "AA" might remind you of Alcoholics Anonymous, and "AB" might remind you of a stinging insect. "NB" might not mean anything to you, in which case, you might select that. But, try other letter combinations, and chances are you'll pick a pleasant sounding combination that will work well for you. And again, if it changes over time, that's just fine.
Then, once you select your mantra, then you find a quiet place where you won't be disturbed for half an hour or so. Turn off the phones, TV, radio, etc. Sit upright in an armless chair, something like a chair commonly found at a kitchen table or dining room table would be good. If you sit in a comfy stratolounger or plush sofa, you'll lean back too far and (for some reason) it won't work as well.
Then, you sit, put your hands in your lap (or on your thighs, whatever, just get comfortable), close your eyes, and say your mantra over and over and over again for 20 minutes. After a while, you'll stop saying it with your lips, so you just keep repeating it over and over and over in your mind. Sometimes you'll realize you started to think about other things instead, and that's pretty normal. So, you just gently return to repeating your mantra over and over and over again.
What will eventually happen, is you'll "zone out." You'll get so totally relaxed that when you come out of it, you'll say, "Wow!" "Cool!" etc etc etc. And that's what you're shooting for.
Just FYI, if something comes up while you're zoned out, you'll be able to zone back in, just as if you had taken a quick cat nap, so don't worry about that.
Now . . . after 20 minutes or so (and you'll know when this is), stop repeating the mantra. You'll want to take a few minutes to gradually zone back in . . . if you do it too quick, you might feel like what happens when someone shakes you real hard when you're in a deep sleep. Not good. So, just stop the mantra, wiggle your eyeballs a little, then wiggle your toes after another little while, then your fingers, then your shoulders, etc etc etc, then open your eyes, then take another minute to prepare to stand up.
Then get up, and that's it.
They say do this twice a day for 20 minutes and the beneficial effects will accumulate over time, until you eventually become "cool as a cucumber." Or something like that.
Anyway, that's the gist of how things work. Oh, one more thing about your mantra . . . tradition has it that you never never never tell anyone what it is. I dunno why, but you can do as you like . . .
So . . . I saved ya $2500 -- what's my cut?
jk . . .
05-24-2005, 01:31 PM #10
hahahah yea im not sure what was involved with that 2500 dollars, maybe it came with a relaxatoion hooker also, not sure, but im def tryint this tonight, one quik question, may sound dumb but lets say i choose NB liek u said, =would i say to myself
ennnnnnn beeeeeeee eeeeeeeennnnnnn beeee, or..
nnnnnnnnnnnnnn, baaaaaaaaaaaaaa , meaning do i say how its pronouncd or the name of the letter, lol im sure it doesnt mater at all but why not ask
05-24-2005, 09:09 PM #11Originally Posted by Machdiesel
You could invent some other sound(s), or use some letters from another language's alphabet, whatever. All that the TM people will do is give you a Sanskrit word for a mantra. Big deal. You could use "RM" or "are - emm" or whatever.
Anyway, good luck, and happy meditating . . .
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