06-13-2005, 06:16 AM #1
Why do Arabs hate Israel so much?
I was watching TV this weekend- on the propaganda channels, one of those channels on cable and this guy from Egypt was blasting Israel for doing this and doing that...then alter that day I picked up an old copy of Foreign Policy magazine, and found an article " A World without Israel." This article examined the "what-if"- what if the Brits had not bankrolled the state of Israel into existence- where would this Arab hostility be pointed, and would the world be better off without Israel. Both the commentary and the article made some great points:
Egypt , Transjordan, Syria, Iraq and Lebanon all marched on Haifa and Tel Aviv not to liberate Palestine but to grab it in 1948. IF the Israelis would not had been victorious- would a Palestinian state have emerged or would the neighboring states been filled with refugees- the same people they do not take into their arms today- but seek to "liberate". What is Israel had disappeared in 1967 instead of occupying the West Bank and Gaza, which were held by Jordans King Hussein and Egypts President Nasser. Would they have relinquished their possessions to Yasir Arafat and thrown in Haifa and Tel Aviv for good measure? Nope!
In 1970 only the Israelis deterred Damascus from invading Jordan under the pretext of supporting a Palestinian uprising. Syria marched into Lebanon in 1976 then effectively annex the country 15 years later, and Iraq launched two wars against fellow Muslim states: Iran in 1980 and Kuwait in 1990.
It isnt just a Muslim-Jewish thing! Saddam led a campaign of extinction against Shias in the aftermath of the Gulf War. Syria masscred 20,000 people in the Muslim Brotherhood stronghold of Hama in 1982, there was terrorist violence against Egyptian Christians in 1990's Wahhabite and Khomenists are mortal enemies...No Arab-Israeli connection here! HAMAS was once an archrival to the PLO!
I am just trying to put the picture together as to how the Arab-Israeli issue gets put to the forefront of every suicide bombing- or the "handmaiden to the US" label gets slapped on everything that goes wrong with the 65 million illiterate souls and 10 million truant children wandering throughout the Mideast.
06-13-2005, 09:15 AM #2
Good post, I wonder how our resident terrorist's will respond. Iím guessing a complete and twisted denial, since truth, facts, and peaceful coexistance is forbidden in there culture.
Last edited by singern; 06-13-2005 at 10:23 AM.
06-13-2005, 12:37 PM #3
Because they are brothers and like every brothers we like to bitch at our bro no?
06-13-2005, 12:37 PM #4Originally Posted by singern
06-13-2005, 12:41 PM #5
A bit of sibling rivalry you think Vandoo?
06-13-2005, 12:43 PM #6Originally Posted by Animal Cracker
maybe someone should remind them they are all from the same tribe at the beginning!
06-13-2005, 12:52 PM #7
I am sure you might could tell them- but then you stand the chance of being labelede a zionist mouthpiece or anti-semite...
06-13-2005, 12:53 PM #8Originally Posted by Animal Cracker
Oh well, im so tired of them all I want to call a special session at the UN to authorize Genocide of both groups so the world might finally stand some silence
06-13-2005, 01:11 PM #9
I am not Arab and I hate Israel, although I hate Russia the most.
Its their actions against the Palestianian people, plain and simple.
And the occupation of Islamic lands.
And they really think Muslims will give up Jerusalem.
Not one inch.
06-13-2005, 04:50 PM #10
Uhhh..the "muslims" gave it up when they lost the wars they started. In 1948 they lost west jerusalem, and in 1967 east jerusalem.
By the way, can you tell me how many times the city of jerusalem is mentioned in the Quran?
06-13-2005, 05:31 PM #11Retired Vet
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06-13-2005, 05:38 PM #12Originally Posted by BOUNCER
06-13-2005, 05:41 PM #13
Many things are important to muslims and they arent mentioned in Koran , plus the al aksa mosque is very very very important to muslims and jerusalem 2 , one more thing if u have a cancer your doctor will ask u why u hate this cancer? well simply I think "israel" is a cancer and we should take it off maybe in 50 ,100,200 years who knows but in the end this cancer will go away, even if all the people around the world recognized "israel" as a state I wouldnt I will always consider it as a cancer and I will teach this as a primary thing to my children, and I will ask them befor I die to teach this to their children to, "israel" is an absolute evil and we should not make peace with evil we should fight the evil.
06-13-2005, 08:37 PM #14
Jerusalem is mentioned in the Quran as the abode of the Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the Rock. Mecca and Medina are mentioned once or twice in the Quran only.
That doesnt matter. Muslims will never let Jerusalem go, ever.
06-13-2005, 09:58 PM #15
can someone recapped the wars over Jerusalem!
first they were the Jews!
Jews lost to the Italians, sorry the romans,
then the roman said "f*ckum itis" and at the same time the Arab from the fertile crescent crossed over and took Jerusalem!
Then some brain washed christian decided to take Jerusalem back,
then we had many crusade, where the city changed hands so many times!
then for centuries it stayed to Arabs!
then the Jews came back, won the war and took it back!
fair game? Yes fair war game, and in pure tradition of that city!
06-14-2005, 08:04 AM #16Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
I cannot believe after a brutal, hateful, and purely sadistic post like this, you have the nerve to call normal people haters.
In the long run it all comes down to one thing, your a terrorist. Peace is not allowed in your culture.
Israel is here to stay, The Jews in Israel are here to stay. and Jerusalem will never again be divided.
Weather you and your husband Nasrala like it or not one thing is certain, there will be peace with the Palestinians, they will have there independence.
What is uncertain is the future of terrorists, and the very nations that support them.
Terrorism is BAD.
Last edited by singern; 06-14-2005 at 08:25 AM.
06-14-2005, 11:11 AM #17Originally Posted by singern
06-14-2005, 11:29 AM #18Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
Blah Blah death to every one, blah blah murder blah blah Zionists, blah blah I love terrorism, blah blah.
Unless your monkey with a keyboard you must have a conscience, or some feeling of humanity. Now put down the exploding dildo and back away slowly. You will thank me later.
Terrorism is bad.
06-14-2005, 11:34 AM #19Originally Posted by singern
06-14-2005, 11:39 AM #20Originally Posted by smokethedays
06-14-2005, 11:45 AM #21Originally Posted by singern
06-14-2005, 11:45 AM #22Originally Posted by MilitiaGuy
Thatís so cute, Militaguy made a friend, do you guys wear the same size bomb belts?
Terrorism is bad.
06-14-2005, 11:51 AM #23Originally Posted by singern
06-14-2005, 12:00 PM #24
if it matters.......
technically im an arab i 60-90% egyptian the rest palestinian i dont hate israel @ all...............
the arabs will always hate israel america im living in egypt rite (now not by choice) the media says shit bout the states and israel they blame everything on both countries when they have a lot of shit that they need to fix damn they get like millions from the usand then say they hate the us ****ing hypcrites most egyptians hate the us and israel
1 thing that always makes me laugh : Taba a city or smth on the border egypt/israel there are alot of israel ppl there the ppl here say that israel planted these girls and infected them with aids so the egyptian guys will sleep with them and limit the popluation or smth like that and they actually believe it...........sad
06-14-2005, 12:00 PM #25Originally Posted by smokethedays
I confront those who support terrorism, how is that ignorant?
How does advocating peace, and decent humanity ignarant.
Unless you are one of them.....are you?
Terrorism is bad.
Last edited by singern; 06-14-2005 at 12:03 PM.
06-14-2005, 12:03 PM #26Originally Posted by singern
06-14-2005, 12:06 PM #27Originally Posted by smokethedays
I see, so its ok in your opinion to post death threats, craving of genocide, statements of hatred, and pride in murder, support for terror.
But if I argue against such inhuman Godless, and insulting behavior Iím a child?
I would argue your views are distorted at best.
Terrorism is bad.
06-14-2005, 12:08 PM #28
here is wt i really believe: arabs ****ed big time for falling into traps that makes them un-unit, also they ****ed up because of thier leaders, if u live in the middle east or ever have a middle eastern friend, u'll know for sure how good these ppl are, but politics bro. isn't for me or u or anybody here, cause wt we know about is ONLY the part that politicians wants us to know, weather ur side or my side, arabs always gonna show US ans Israel as big evil, and US/Israel always gonna show arabs as terrorists and savage ppl. but the truth is neither side is. and it's all about politicians trying to stay in power for the longest through making ppl believe that their is danger around and he (the politicians) is working on it, so needs more time. that all bro. and sorry for any insult.
06-14-2005, 12:11 PM #29
terrorism=extremeness which exists in any religion or creed, KKK, muslim brotherhood, zionists, nazi, gangs, crusaders, alqaeda....etc. all these are terrorists in my opinion. cause there are no religion or creed encourages ppl to kill others.
06-14-2005, 12:15 PM #30Originally Posted by smokethedays
I am American/Israeli, I am not a Zionist, nor am I a supporter of Sharon.
I absolutely fight for Palestinian independence, and there right to self govern. I have nothing but respect for Islam, and every culture under the sun.
I am Absolutely against terrorists, weather they are Islamic extremists, Arab national criminals, Jewish right wing fanatics, Arian nation idiots, neo Nazis, Chechen separatists, and the list goes on and on. I fight the good fight against terrorism whoever, and wherever they are PERIOD.
Terrorism is bad.
Last edited by singern; 06-14-2005 at 12:17 PM.
06-14-2005, 12:20 PM #31
06-14-2005, 12:21 PM #32Originally Posted by smokethedays
Terrorism is bad.
Last edited by singern; 06-14-2005 at 12:24 PM.
06-14-2005, 12:22 PM #33Originally Posted by singern
06-14-2005, 12:25 PM #34Originally Posted by smokethedays
My sincere apologies, I inserted the wrong Smilyface icon. as you can see I have already corrected it.
06-14-2005, 12:28 PM #35
ok.. and y r u flipping me??
06-14-2005, 12:29 PM #36Originally Posted by smokethedays
06-14-2005, 12:33 PM #37
06-14-2005, 12:41 PM #38Originally Posted by smokethedays
Bro, you're really starting to sound like a younger brother, tattling on his sibling, take this to PM's with Bouncer.
06-14-2005, 12:42 PM #39
sorry but it's really offensive guys
06-14-2005, 12:44 PM #40Originally Posted by smokethedays
Having said that I will continue to make PERSONAL attacks, and justly ridicule anyone who is so lacking in conscience and humanity as to justify, and glorify terrorism.
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